What's The Difference Between Black & Rust And Black & Tan?

[Chelsi7911]

Just wondering if anyone could put some photos up to help explain to me what the difference is between Black & Rust and Black & Tan Dobies?

Are the Black & Rust the ones with a more reddish hue to the markings? And the Tan markings are alot lighter?

I am getting so confused...

This is the colour I am after:



Could someone tell me what colour this one is? Please?

Thanks everyone! x

 

[Caloni]

Here are some Pictures, Hope this helps. The Rust vs the Tan is referring to how deeply red or brown the markings are. I did find one breeder (not a good one mind you) that even was selling a black and white or silver. The tan was so light it almost looked blond. I included a picture at the end showing something similar. But I have never seen a pup like it since. The first two pictures are of Rust dogs and the second two are of tan dogs. There is also one of a rust and a tan side by side, and the last is the black and silver/white.

 

[Caloni]

The color you are after would be Black and Rust. But be ware that not all breeders adhere to describing their puppies like this. I would always ask to see mom, and dad as puppies will take after their parents in the dark or light coloring. Some pups will also lighten up as they get to be around a year old, and some go back to getting darker while others do not. My boy came from 2 parents that are both darker in their points of color. They have never produced a Tan colored pointed dog, only the deep red or rust coloring. He did get a little lighter around 10-12 months old, but has darkened up since then. I too like the deeper color like you posted in the pic.

 

[iceman]

this is a black & tan with dark pigmentation on tan markings..

 

[Chelsi7911]

Thanks a lot Caloni!

You know when you think you know something, but end up reading so many different things and then end up doubting yourself!? lol

This has been a great help! Thanks! x

 

[Chelsi7911]

Thanks Iceman

 

[Katja Henriksen]

I just think it's called Black and rust in the US and black and tan in Europe.
The colors on European Dobes are deeper/richer (also in the brown/red dobes) which is why there seems to be a difference but I would say that basically it's the same thing.
Sounds like you have a preference for the Euro colourings.

 

[Chelsi7911]

I just think it's called Black and rust in the US and black and tan in Europe.
The colors on European Dobes are deeper/richer (also in the brown/red dobes) which is why there seems to be a difference but I would say that basically it's the same thing.
Sounds like you have a preference for the Euro colourings.

Definitely! I love the darker reddish markings. And I like the ones that only have a touch of colour on the chest. But that's just personal preference of looks, I want to make sure my first Dobie is happy, healthy and has great personality, which I am sure won't be hard to find XD

 

[Ingrid H]

In Spanish, they call tan or rust "fuego" which literally means fire in English. I think Fuego is a nice description of the orange component of a rust color. I've seen black Dobermans with light tan markings and don't find that very attractive. It reminds me of a Coon Hound.

 

[Chelsi7911]

In Spanish, they call tan or rust "fuego" which literally means fire in English. I think Fuego is a nice description of the orange component of a rust color. I've seen black Dobermans with light tan markings and don't find that very attractive. It reminds me of a Coon Hound.

Completely agree with you on that. I think Dobermans look much nicer with dark red markings rather than then tan. And I don't like the markings to be too big either, for example, like this:



But, again, it's my personal preference on looks. XD

 

[Gelcoater]

In Spanish, they call tan or rust "fuego" which literally means fire in English. I think Fuego is a nice description of the orange component of a rust color. I've seen black Dobermans with light tan markings and don't find that very attractive. It reminds me of a Coon Hound.

The Coon Hound colors vary as much as the Dobers do.I think Coon Hounds are cool.

 

[JanS]

I love Albert's deep coloring on his markings. He's 100% Euro.

 

[Chelsi7911]

I love Albert's deep coloring on his markings. He's 100% Euro.

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He's beautiful! That's the sort of colouring I wont on my Dobie! Have you got any photos of him when he was younger? Could you tell he was going to have dark markings from what he looked like as a pup?

 

[Ingrid H]

The Coon Hound colors vary as much as the Dobers do.I think Coon Hounds are cool.

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Wow! That Coon Hound has a nice rust. I din't know they varied that much too

 

[JanS]

Have you got any photos of him when he was younger? Could you tell he was going to have dark markings from what he looked like as a pup?

Thank you! Oh I have plenty from his puppy days and he's always had the deep color.


Ugh, this doesn't really show it well either.

 

[Chelsi7911]

Thank you! Oh I have plenty from his puppy days and he's always had the deep color.
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Ugh, this doesn't really show it well either.

He's gorgeous!

What about when he was really really young?