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MyBuddy said:
Ok, that does not look like fun! Can I assume its from trying to pick him up and place him into the tub?? I rarely bathe Buddy. I good rubbing down of a damp towel is usually sufficient. But when I do, I have hot and cold water in the garage and I can just use the hose. No picking him up, which, of course, I can't do anyway. PLUS, when we built this house I made sure our walk in shower also had a hand held shower head in addition to the regular one. Just for the dog! lol! We even added length to it to be sure I could get over, under and around a large dog. :D It took some training to get him to walk in there but now does so with ease. If you don't have all that, I would get some warm water in a bucket and do a little outside (in summer) and the rest of the time just use a damp towel.

Sorry about your face. :( That had to hurt.
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Thank you! Okay, here's the tale:

It was from trying to pick him up, technically, yeah. It's not that he is not accustomed to being picked up. I do that quite a bit to weigh him. I also mess with him when on a walk sometimes and he is obsessing on sniffing (and licking :facepalm::sick:) up some pee from another animal and he refuses to budge and come along with me. I pick him up and roll him back into a position like I'm holding a baby and we then walk along like that. It looks pretty funny and cute. I also think people must think I'm a pretty strong guy, but what they don't know is Oji only weighs like 70 lbs.

Back to the sad tale: I was trying to bathe Oji on the driveway with a hose. Nice hot, sunny day. I actually think he gets more freaked out by the bath tub scenario than this. Well, the errors began when I agreed to let my daughter help, starting with spraying him down. See, he had refused to come to us when she called him. I let that go on too long before I finally sternly called him over. He slinked almost to us then trotted away. Okay, this is crap I don't tolerate. I went and got him, half dragging him over by the scruff of the neck (no collar on). I then let my daughter start to spray him. Note that getting a bath is one of the things he is the best about tolerating of all the procedures there are.

Well, he starts to trot away and she keep spraying him. I know the nozzle sticks on, so I figure that is why she kept spraying him. I am telling Oji to stop and to not run from me. He usually honors this command and allows me to come to him and get him. This time he starts running. We are in an enclosed backyard so I figure chuck-it I'm just going to run after him. Yeah, a lot of times with Oji I just sort of don't care about doing things the right way because he's such a disappointment to me. Well, he gets up onto the small back porch and I arrive. Another miscalculation on my part. He feels stressed – and trapped – now. I reach down to pick him up to carry him back to the bath scene and, snap. I know I'm hit and it could be bad. He also nipped me like three more times in that 1 or 2 second span of time but thankfully these were not serious.

So this is encouraging in that I don't think I need to take this as Oji being unreliable and a bite risk. I do, however, need to keep my guard up and not do things I know are not smart. He has already shown me that during nail-trimming he will bite at me, and a muzzle has become part of the tool kit. Oji will get into a freaked-out mode, or perhaps a self-preservation mode and will snap.

I dont' think I shared on here that at the vet last time, he bloodied up a tech in two spots on the face when she was trying to restrain him as another tried to take his temperature. It was head butts and not bites. I heard what sounded like a dog fight and I burst into the room to find the woman on her back. The other tech had him by leash and Oji was wanting at the woman.
 
Kaiser2016 said:
They really don't like being picked up, do they?
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Because we are out and about with the dogs in situations some may call dangerous, we work with the dogs by picking them up on a regular basis. We take them on hikes, out on the river and of course tornadoes could be an issue. I can't pick them up any longer but hubby and my kids can and do in case we are ever in an emergency. So far we haven't encountered a situation where it was necessary so we can only hope it pays off.
 
Oh Little Oji said:
So this is encouraging in that I don't think I need to take this as Oji being unreliable and a bite risk. I do, however, need to keep my guard up and not do things I know are not smart. He has already shown me that during nail-trimming he will bite at me, and a muzzle has become part of the tool kit. Oji will get into a freaked-out mode, or perhaps a self-preservation mode and will snap.
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It sounds like you've identified all the moments where things were going wrong. Things escalated so quickly. I still cannot believe that this happened, but I am glad that he at least did not turn on your daughter. Indeed, what a disappointment after all that you do for him! Thanks for sharing the details. There must have been something in the air yesterday as Kaiser went blasting through the neighborhood completely ignoring us calling him and yet running past us knowing we can't catch him. 'Krazy Kaiser' mode has not been seen in many months. Don't you wish you could just sedate them...
 
Oh Little Oji said:
It's not that he is not accustomed to being picked up. I do that quite a bit to weigh him. I also mess with him when on a walk sometimes and he is obsessing on sniffing (and licking :facepalm::sick:) up some pee from another animal and he refuses to budge and come along with me. I pick him up and roll him back into a position like I'm holding a baby and we then walk along like that. It looks pretty funny and cute.
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I read that Dobes tend to bond with only one person, likely it was on this forum, but I also asked some Dobe owners I know and they didn't agree with that statement, but I sense that this may be true more than ppl realize. Oji clearly allows you to handle him with the baby type hold with his belly exposed - that is pretty trusting I think. I wonder if the presence of your daughter changed the dynamics too much for Oji's liking.
 
Oh Little Oji said:
Thank you! Okay, here's the tale:

It was from trying to pick him up, technically, yeah. It's not that he is not accustomed to being picked up. I do that quite a bit to weigh him. I also mess with him when on a walk sometimes and he is obsessing on sniffing (and licking :facepalm::sick:) up some pee from another animal and he refuses to budge and come along with me. I pick him up and roll him back into a position like I'm holding a baby and we then walk along like that. It looks pretty funny and cute. I also think people must think I'm a pretty strong guy, but what they don't know is Oji only weighs like 70 lbs.

Back to the sad tale: I was trying to bathe Oji on the driveway with a hose. Nice hot, sunny day. I actually think he gets more freaked out by the bath tub scenario than this. Well, the errors began when I agreed to let my daughter help, starting with spraying him down. See, he had refused to come to us when she called him. I let that go on too long before I finally sternly called him over. He slinked almost to us then trotted away. Okay, this is crap I don't tolerate. I went and got him, half dragging him over by the scruff of the neck (no collar on). I then let my daughter start to spray him. Note that getting a bath is one of the things he is the best about tolerating of all the procedures there are.

Well, he starts to trot away and she keep spraying him. I know the nozzle sticks on, so I figure that is why she kept spraying him. I am telling Oji to stop and to not run from me. He usually honors this command and allows me to come to him and get him. This time he starts running. We are in an enclosed backyard so I figure chuck-it I'm just going to run after him. Yeah, a lot of times with Oji I just sort of don't care about doing things the right way because he's such a disappointment to me. Well, he gets up onto the small back porch and I arrive. Another miscalculation on my part. He feels stressed – and trapped – now. I reach down to pick him up to carry him back to the bath scene and, snap. I know I'm hit and it could be bad. He also nipped me like three more times in that 1 or 2 second span of time but thankfully these were not serious.

So this is encouraging in that I don't think I need to take this as Oji being unreliable and a bite risk. I do, however, need to keep my guard up and not do things I know are not smart. He has already shown me that during nail-trimming he will bite at me, and a muzzle has become part of the tool kit. Oji will get into a freaked-out mode, or perhaps a self-preservation mode and will snap.

I dont' think I shared on here that at the vet last time, he bloodied up a tech in two spots on the face when she was trying to restrain him as another tried to take his temperature. It was head butts and not bites. I heard what sounded like a dog fight and I burst into the room to find the woman on her back. The other tech had him by leash and Oji was wanting at the woman.
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I am so sorry..I had not seen this post and did not realized how bad it is! Is he a rescue? I know you realize that this is a very serious problem..I am so sorry that you are disappointed in him..it takes time and patience but to have always be careful now and not trust him..Once they have gone far enough to bite then unfortunately a muzzle is about the only option..sigh..You can try working with him and reward him really generously when he does what you want...I never try to force a dog...not good.. I may catch a lot of negative remarks from this but depending on how bad and it is you may want to do the kindest thing at times is to euthanize him. I know but you don't want to risk your daughter and it's no darn fun having a dog that you can't trust..There are a lot of options but it's what you can tolerate..I don't tolerate biting! I'm sorry to say it but I think you do have to take this as bite risk! My dogs have never even offered to bite a vet etc..let alone me..Please take it seriously!
 
Happy Hump Day! Something clicked with this Dingo and she's really starting to impress during practice and I am left trying to catch my breath (I can run, I can talk, but I can't do BOTH - yet).

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I think the lady in our class who was asking about breeders is getting a pup from the breeder Rubie's sire came from! I've offered to show her how to post so I can get my puppy fix :):):)
 
Oh Little Oji said:
Yeah, a lot of times with Oji I just sort of don't care about doing things the right way because he's such a disappointment to me.
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I'm just gonna say this...and then drop it. Wrong thread to go off topic. :rolleyes: But I feel this is the saddest statement I've heard in a very long time. :( Oh, and #10 How to teach your dog NOT to come

I never call my dog for a bath. I get everything ready and then just go to him. Or her in a nonchalant way.
 
MyBuddy said:
I'm just gonna say this...and then drop it. Wrong thread to go off topic. :rolleyes: But I feel this is the saddest statement I've heard in a very long time. :( Oh, and #10 How to teach your dog NOT to come

I never call my dog for a bath. I get everything ready and then just go to him. Or her in a nonchalant way.
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Oh. Sorry for sharing with you then.

I'll just say this today, as we've been over this before: Have you heard the phrase "Dog won't hunt" ? What does it mean? Where did it come from and why?

And yes, I am well aware of the concepts of training a dog to come. Hence what I wrote which was, well, what you quoted: "Yeah, a lot of times with Oji I just sort of don't care about doing things the right way because he's such a disappointment to me."
 
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