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Over active dobe - need low cost or free training options
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Mental stimulation is a huge things with Dobermans. Lucky for me my Schutzhund trainer doesn't charge up the beep. I teach at home as well and it's all positive reinforcement and turkey or ham lol
sometimes I cut up hot dogs. Always end your training on a good note. Are you just wanting basics cuz those can be easily achieved with patients and understanding. Have you ever used a flirt pole before to tire him out ? I love our flirt pole. I do small ten minute training sessions at home short sweet and simple.
I use a prong collar for my walks. Not doing anything with him and giving no rules to follow has created your problem. How old is he ? I do not let him get rough or jump on people. We have a smaller dog and he is not allowed to get rough with him once he attempts to I sit him then down him and make stay like that till obviously relaxes I then reward that behavior with a calm pet and he can go about his business it works well but follow through is a must.
Order from herm sprenger buy two small prong pinch and one medium stainless steel no quick release. Start with the small ones I say two because you'll need extra links for it to fit snugly but not choking on the upper portion of the neck. The larger prongs are useless. The small one have more of a bite so simple correction a big jerk it's not necessary. I have walking rules for my dogs as well. If you'd like me to share I have no problem doing so.Hes 2 yrs old. I will look into buying a prong collar this weekend and start walking him more. And i will do the same as you to calm him down.
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I always walk like I have a purpose it's a walk so its work it's not play time. My little dog must follow these rules as well. What I mean by a simple correction is a quick side tug of the leash.
1: NO pulling. This to me is unacceptable . My dogs are not allowed to walk infront of me they must stay by my side. A correction is impossible to make when a dog is at the end of a leash. I achieve it with a simple correction once he does what's asked he is rewarded with a treat and I say yes. ( I like my dog to look like he knows what he's doing)
2: NO lunging, chasing of any kind. This is achieved by a simple correction before the action happens and I use the word "leave it" ( you will need to teach a leave it command it will be your best friend when he decides to get your kids and other things) once he does what's asked reward.
3: NO sniffing/marking: I do not let him do this because it's not allowed on the field for training and it's not necessary on a walk for him to mark what isn't his. I don't want his nose down trying to drag me around from scent to scent on a walk this is only acceptable if we are doing nose work. He attempts this simple correction reward when he has done what is asked .
I hope this will help your walks become more pleasant but he needs some serious structure
just like children 
The problem with books or even watching training videos is they can not teach you to "read" your dog,to anticipate his next move,so it can becorrected before it happens.
Experience.Trainers have it,and it is not easily conveyed in books.
Not trying to discourage you here but it's reality.
I can completely understand not having resources to pay for this service,been there.
How important is it to you?
Sell something,pawn something,offer trade of some kind to a trainer.
You can find training tips all over this site,it's better than nothing but nothing beats help from a pro.
Lol or watch a lot of cesear Milan
He rehabilitates dogs,he trains humans.Lol or watch a lot of cesear Milan
Sure some things can be learned from Cesear.
And,there's an idea.
As silly as it may sound,maybe this new poster should send Cesear an email?
You never know,maybe we see these two on an upcoming episode.
It's right up his alley.
This dog needs rehabilitation from a lack of training from the description given and the dogs owner needs to be trained to know how and work the dog.
Glad you take jokes. Cesear is great though I learned tons from just watching him. lolHe rehabilitates dogs,he trains humans.
Sure some things can be learned from Cesear.
And,there's an idea.
As silly as it may sound,maybe this new poster should send Cesear an email?
You never know,maybe we see these two on an upcoming episode.
It's right up his alley.
This dog needs rehabilitation from a lack of training from the description given and the dogs owner needs to be trained to know how and work the dog.
Drogon
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I believe you can read and stream at least some of their information for free at Leerburg | 17,500 pages of dog training information, 750 free dog training streaming videos, free eBooks, podcasts, by Ed Frawley and Michael Ellis
Most of the videos that are worthwhile are probably not free but probably less expensive than a trainer depending on your area.
Training won't necessarily cut down on him being active. It will help give him something to focus his energy on. It really depends on his behavior. You might just need to get him more exercise. My pup is nearly 8 months old. Whenever he gets too rowdy around the house, I take him for about a 2 mile walk. Sometimes that doesn't help much so a little bit later we do it again. I figure if he has enough energy to run around my house, he has enough to walk 2 miles. Usually after the second walk he calms down.
If you have anywhere that is fence in, safe, and large enough you can allow him to run off lead. I take mine to our local dog park. People have varying opinions about dog parks. There are certainly arguments for both pros and cons. Sometimes only 20 minutes at the dog park and my pup is ready to lay down and go to sleep. Other times we stay a couple of hours. Even if you don't have a dog park, you might find some other area to allow your dog to run and burn off some of that energy.
Another great tool for exercising is a flirt pole. You can make one for not much money or buy one. It is a great way to exercise your dog but it can/will also build prey drive. If you don't want a dog with a high prey drive, then I wouldn't suggest it.
Most of the videos that are worthwhile are probably not free but probably less expensive than a trainer depending on your area.
Training won't necessarily cut down on him being active. It will help give him something to focus his energy on. It really depends on his behavior. You might just need to get him more exercise. My pup is nearly 8 months old. Whenever he gets too rowdy around the house, I take him for about a 2 mile walk. Sometimes that doesn't help much so a little bit later we do it again. I figure if he has enough energy to run around my house, he has enough to walk 2 miles. Usually after the second walk he calms down.
If you have anywhere that is fence in, safe, and large enough you can allow him to run off lead. I take mine to our local dog park. People have varying opinions about dog parks. There are certainly arguments for both pros and cons. Sometimes only 20 minutes at the dog park and my pup is ready to lay down and go to sleep. Other times we stay a couple of hours. Even if you don't have a dog park, you might find some other area to allow your dog to run and burn off some of that energy.
Another great tool for exercising is a flirt pole. You can make one for not much money or buy one. It is a great way to exercise your dog but it can/will also build prey drive. If you don't want a dog with a high prey drive, then I wouldn't suggest it.
^^ completely agreed with @Drogon I made my flirt pole out of a horse lunge whip and some old cut up wash cloths. Mental exercise are a huge thing with Dobermans and can tire them out sometimes faster then physical exercise. I say this because as someone that is active and works out a lot when I'm running I can get what is called runners high and I think that's what happens with them as well. End up getting really pumped and not wanting to stop lol a great brain toy I have found is the star mark treat ringer horse shoe and this awesome toy !
I made my flirt pole out of a horse lunge whip and some old cut up wash cloths. Mental exercise are a huge thing with Dobermans and can tire them out sometimes faster then physical exercise. I say this because as someone that is active and works out a lot when I'm running I can get what is called runners high and I think that's what happens with them as well. End up getting really pumped and not wanting to stop lol a great brain toy I have found is the star mark treat ringer horse shoe and this awesome toy !
Dobs4ever
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You can read a hundred books and still not be able to reproduce the correct results as so much is reading and communicating through your bond with your dog. Books are also expensive - far better to put that money into a good training class where you learn to work with your dog.
Dogs need solid basic commands - sit, down, stand, stay and at least loose lead walking. Body language speaks as much to your dog as the words you say. A command should only be given once and then the dog should obey. If not you are not communicating correction. I call it the 3 C's Calm, confident, consistent. Calm because the dog is not deaf so yelling and escalating to the dog only make the problem worse. Confident in your ability to communicate with your dog and to your dog your skill level. (This is part of what a real training class will give you as well as fantastic socialization working around other dogs and people) Consistent - Once you as for a behavior you must follow through until you get it then praise and reward. Present the command to the dog the exact same way every time so he gets the picture.
You can go to AKC.org and check out clubs in your area- I know our club charges $90.00 for a 6 week course. Your dog is worth the investment.
Dogs need solid basic commands - sit, down, stand, stay and at least loose lead walking. Body language speaks as much to your dog as the words you say. A command should only be given once and then the dog should obey. If not you are not communicating correction. I call it the 3 C's Calm, confident, consistent. Calm because the dog is not deaf so yelling and escalating to the dog only make the problem worse. Confident in your ability to communicate with your dog and to your dog your skill level. (This is part of what a real training class will give you as well as fantastic socialization working around other dogs and people) Consistent - Once you as for a behavior you must follow through until you get it then praise and reward. Present the command to the dog the exact same way every time so he gets the picture.
You can go to AKC.org and check out clubs in your area- I know our club charges $90.00 for a 6 week course. Your dog is worth the investment.
Gretchen_Red
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Where are you located? Two years old is a long time to wait to start training and it doesn't sound like you have much experience. I would suggest trying to get the money together to go to an accredited training facility. It's not just what you will learn with your current dog but training that you can use forever.
I believe it does not take money to train a dog. Not that I would not take money from someone who wanted me to train their dog, but if money is in short supply like it is for you and me, I'd say you can do it yourself.
When I got my first Doberman I will admit that I knew very little about training. The desire was there and I really studied a lot of books. The Dobe and I were pretty successful.
So have an open mind. Maybe forget what you think you know about dogs, and get some good books on training. The only reason I say that part about forgetting is I think just about everyone has their ideas and feelings about dogs from growing up around them. When I started out training though, I recognized that I didn't know much and so I could really soak up the good information from the books.
Start with the basics. That's what dogs need! I start with "heel." Sit, down, a "no" command, etc.
I don't remember all the books I studied, but the books by The Monks of New Skete are good. Books by Joel McMains, who is big into Dobermans is good. What's the name of that woman, Barbara Woodward? A key dog trainer in history. The Koehler Method of Dog Training is great, though in today's world especially, you have to be careful about following some of his hardcore advice.
Best of luck to you!
When I got my first Doberman I will admit that I knew very little about training. The desire was there and I really studied a lot of books. The Dobe and I were pretty successful.
So have an open mind. Maybe forget what you think you know about dogs, and get some good books on training. The only reason I say that part about forgetting is I think just about everyone has their ideas and feelings about dogs from growing up around them. When I started out training though, I recognized that I didn't know much and so I could really soak up the good information from the books.
Start with the basics. That's what dogs need! I start with "heel." Sit, down, a "no" command, etc.
I don't remember all the books I studied, but the books by The Monks of New Skete are good. Books by Joel McMains, who is big into Dobermans is good. What's the name of that woman, Barbara Woodward? A key dog trainer in history. The Koehler Method of Dog Training is great, though in today's world especially, you have to be careful about following some of his hardcore advice.
Best of luck to you!
Of course I don't mean go buy books. Library library library!
Puzzle toys, kongs, starmark treat ringer horse shoe is my favorite. We do track the hog dogs in the backyard or other places. We do hide and seek in the house. Hide the treats and seek. Put a treat under a cup and move them around so he has to think of which one its in. We use a flirt pole everyday. And ten min fun training sessions every day.
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