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All good. +1 on @Ladydi if it aint broke dont fix it on food. Dobe puppies should be restricted to 26% protein until growth plates fuse at about 18 months IIRC. Tons of food threads here to read if you havent already and you'll start to know who is who in the zoo and knows what taking about...

BEAST landscaper mode.

@web_creator Welcome! Would love to see pics of pup when you can and learn more of your progress. Do you happen to have a link to share for those studies you cited? Thanks!

I know, its pretty deep for me. I'm struggling to understand half of thst Embark link you sent, as it is! The practical challenge, after is in the application- "what do the best breeders use, and how do I understand the use of the tools well enough to ask questions and rank breeders by...

Here is another useful explanation, for me at least: https://www.dobermanpreservationproject.com/the-genetics.html

Speaking of Embark and Dobermans https://embarkvet.com/resources/inbreeding-recessive-disease-genotypes/

He mentioned that force free originated in rodents in a cage, which of course they could not escape...then was picked up by marine mammal researchers- animals in a tank or pen, they could not escape... He said Karen Pryor started in marine mammals. I did not know that.

Lol, I know, right? 🤷🏻‍♂️ I shared this to give another example of the issue you have discussed- your research into the best dog for your needs, and frustration as you learned of some parts of the US dobe breed ecosystem are closed minded or even in denial of issues. But to take heart as the...

"The foundations of positive only training is cracked" -Beckman Balanced training:

@Ravenbird I hear your passion and frustration with the sort of "not invented here" mindset in some circles. Here is another example of how passionate dog breed enthusiasts are looking for a way out, by science: https://www.flatcoatconservation.org/breederbios...

Good question for Embark and Wisdom, UC Davis and Betterbred. There are a couple similar labs in Europe that do genetic testing- forget the names but if you go to the websites there may be discussion on the process. As I recall talking to people about Embark in dog parks over the last three...

Thanks @JanS Re: "a lot of people not happy about it" on WZ One thing I find interesting about dog breeding is the evolution of breed group norms in various human groups. Sometimes just reading back in archives or older documents on websites like DPCA is useful to understand current "dogma"...

Is sort of a big catch all topic, feel free to add thoughts ideas, links. My association of the term is for "bred to function (inc with good health" as in "total doberman" that can do it all - healthy structural conformation built to task needs in person and home guardian, family companion...

Have some music with that! https://www.breitbart.com/america250/2026/07/04/american-soundtrack-american-badass-bridgette-tatum-brings-the-fire-we-only-bend-the-knee-for-jesus-and-the-red-white-and-blue/ And...

Livestream here: https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1nxnRRvlqZNxO

This seems a little over the top...but not wrong.

And back at ya, @Ddski5 as OP, as I forgot to add you as having questions on the process, "follow the money, follow the people" Here is an example on copper storage disease: Morris Animal Foundation is the grantor- And when I found the copper storage gene in Bonnies Embark, I went "down the...

@DD4MSpock I get you, and I'm where you are- healthy pet... Breeders and competition by pedigreed dogs, in particular in conformation is how we got here- including the data...and I take DPCA's position statements on breeding for longevity and health at face value, as well as AKC "Bred for...

Yes, much better!

So the thing about the FKC Dobe Cross Breed Project thats interesting is they have tools to measure genetic diversity as well as the recorded pedigree, to identify parentage and recorded problems to attempt to select away from inherited diseases. This speeds things up, if I am understanding...