Katyusha and Zastava
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MichiH
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Eczema? Could the licking be what’s removing the fur? Do they seem painful?So here are the first two as of writing this. The one further from her spine formed first, then the adjacent one formed a couple days later. They start with bumps that are similar to pimples, but without the pus. And those bumps eventually scab over after they give her the bald patches. The first one formed roughly 10 days back. I would say these are on the healing side at this point.View attachment 153167
This is the one I saw her licking on last night, excuse the fact thst to get a good pic out of the shadow, her junk got photographed with it, but I wanted something to show the vet tech that helped me rule out ringworm. So this is what it looks like when they're first forming.View attachment 153168
Now I've noticed some bumps under her fur in a few other places this evening, but no hair loss, and the ones I noticed this evening seem more like rouge ones, not a cluster of 4 or 5.
Didn't even notice till you pointed it out. Maybe both our trains of thought are similarly derailed
Pepper has the pimples too and they turn to scabs, but they’re not very big.
Did they discuss a food allergy?
My friend who owns a Doberman in PA, she used a new carpet cleaner and it caused a rash on her boy. Anything new you have used?
I am so sorry you all are dealing with this.
I initially thought they looked similar. My Thor had hypothyroidism, and if that's all this is, on the whole scope of the spectrum, I'd take it, it was easy to diagnose and easy and relatively cheap to treat. The numbers are there: then that's what this is and this,is how much drug we give to treat it.
Thanks! We will be fine and persevere, she's a Dobergirl, after all.
I should explain, all we have done so far is see a vet tech with a cool ass blacklight that can confirm ringworm and there wasn't any. Then talked to the same tech today who encouraged a visit with her doctor since it had showed up in another area (this was on my way home to let them out at lunch time). So at lunch time I cut the ingredient panel and guaranteed nutrition label out of thier food bag and dropped it by the clinic so her vet can study it ahead of her appointment on Tuesday if he has time and wishes to.I can't think of any new cleaners or chemicals, other than my own shower gel I use each morning, and that was in use about 20 days before seeing this in her, but I'll keep thinking about that one. Something could have slipped thru my memory. In the last month or month and a half I've been sharing raw broccoli florets and baby carrots and bananas with them...?
MichiH
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Awesome start! Keep us posted! You’re right Dobergirls don’t mess aroundI initially thought they looked similar. My Thor had hypothyroidism, and if that's all this is, on the whole scope of the spectrum, I'd take it, it was easy to diagnose and easy and relatively cheap to treat. The numbers are there: then that's what this is and this,is how much drug we give to treat it.
Thanks! We will be fine and persevere, she's a Dobergirl, after all.
Thanks! And i sure will publish our learning here. I appreciate the support when things feel questionable. And lordy Dobergirls do not mess around!Awesome start! Keep us posted! You’re right Dobergirls don’t mess around
Oh wow that's confusing and a little alarming. I would definitely be concerned about that. I hope you and your vet can figure it out.
Nothing like a cool ass black light!
Thanks! I know most of you struggle with this but I at least have local vets that I have high confidence in. They're smart, and hard working and unlikely to send me to a specialist unless they are truly out of options. I'm not saying they know everything off hand but they seem to like to look things up when the answer isn't clear. So I'm sure we can get at least somewhere with it.
Lots of good suggestions already, I don't have much else to offer except one thing:
One time, when Asha was about 2 she would look like she was sleeping in a ball with her nose nuzzled into her flank for warmth. The hair started to look worn and I realized her mouth was open and she was holding her flank. Not sucking, just holding in her mouth. It's also how she holds her blanket, never nursing on it just holds still with it stuffed into her mouth. So I put some kind of no-chew spray on her flanks and told her No anytime I saw her doing it and within a week or two she quit and the hair grew back. I don't remember pimples or bumps. Also I don't recall if it was right after heat or a month or two later when the puppy and nesting obsession was going on, but I do remember thinking it was one more post-heat reaction.
Flank sucking use to be a thing with Dobermans, talked about as far back as the 1950's. With our dogs in this age showered with beds and blankets and fuzzy toys, I think they just took to sucking on those instead? I can see how especially show dogs would have been given an alternative because flank suckers would be obvious in the show ring.
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One time, when Asha was about 2 she would look like she was sleeping in a ball with her nose nuzzled into her flank for warmth. The hair started to look worn and I realized her mouth was open and she was holding her flank. Not sucking, just holding in her mouth. It's also how she holds her blanket, never nursing on it just holds still with it stuffed into her mouth. So I put some kind of no-chew spray on her flanks and told her No anytime I saw her doing it and within a week or two she quit and the hair grew back. I don't remember pimples or bumps. Also I don't recall if it was right after heat or a month or two later when the puppy and nesting obsession was going on, but I do remember thinking it was one more post-heat reaction.
Flank sucking use to be a thing with Dobermans, talked about as far back as the 1950's. With our dogs in this age showered with beds and blankets and fuzzy toys, I think they just took to sucking on those instead? I can see how especially show dogs would have been given an alternative because flank suckers would be obvious in the show ring.
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You really are blessed with your local clinic, and I know you realize more than ever how lucky you are to have them. Some of the stories we hear of on this chat about vets is just nuts!
I read what you wrote and that's alot of good information and experience. I'm glad im not the only one that thought post-heat. Ill read the dpca article later at work, but I did want to let you all know some good news! I just looked at the inside of her back leg and those bumps are gone as fast as they arrived! No evidence they were even there in the first place!Lots of good suggestions already, I don't have much else to offer except one thing:
One time, when Asha was about 2 she would look like she was sleeping in a ball with her nose nuzzled into her flank for warmth. The hair started to look worn and I realized her mouth was open and she was holding her flank. Not sucking, just holding in her mouth. It's also how she holds her blanket, never nursing on it just holds still with it stuffed into her mouth. So I put some kind of no-chew spray on her flanks and told her No anytime I saw her doing it and within a week or two she quit and the hair grew back. I don't remember pimples or bumps. Also I don't recall if it was right after heat or a month or two later when the puppy and nesting obsession was going on, but I do remember thinking it was one more post-heat reaction.
Flank sucking use to be a thing with Dobermans, talked about as far back as the 1950's. With our dogs in this age showered with beds and blankets and fuzzy toys, I think they just took to sucking on those instead? I can see how especially show dogs would have been given an alternative because flank suckers would be obvious in the show ring.
Flank Sucking | DPCA
And you're close to them! That's one thing I wish I had. Mine is at least a half hour away and because he's not a big conglomerate he's the only vet there. So if they're booked you're out of luck for a while. It's not like I can walk in and say hey I've got a problem.
yep, close enough that it's a toss-up whether we walk there or start the car. Literally out my back door, across the lawn, past a pizza shop, McDonalds and Dollar General and we are there.
With this rash, I had to wait till Tuesday to be seen. That would not have been the case years ago in their previous building, but now the building is so big, so they took on a lot more clients. They even have clients that come from the twin cities, 2 hours away, I don't know if it's pricing, or just the way they get treated as far as not referring on for every last thing, or, that they provide 24/7 emergency care, as long as you have paid an invoice in the last 18 months, and they don't gouge for it, either. I think that draws a lot of pet owners.
EDIT to add, that if I am in a pinch, they will take any of mine right now and kennel them until one of the doctors has time, then call me and let me know what's up.
Our vet keeps 4 appointments open for emergency walk ins but you have to call early in the day. Thankfully he told the receptionists that if I call for something like that to get me in since if I call there's a good reason for it.
Those 4 slots are sure nice! It's nice that he gave the receptionists that heads up, too, specifically about you.
On some lighter notes: I enrolled Zastava in an intro to nosework class a month ago. Today was the first time we tried it outside. She absolutely knew what her mission was and did amazing at finding it. I'm teaching Katyusha at the same time, and she rocked it too, both of them outside and in the breeze. I didn't get video today, but I'll try to remember to get some on our next outdoor "SEARCH!" game.
And this was my big, bad, champion bloodline Zastava this evening, being reduced to a crying lump of jello after confronting an alley cat. I really can't stop laughing over this one. There's not even a mark on her.
And this was my big, bad, champion bloodline Zastava this evening, being reduced to a crying lump of jello after confronting an alley cat. I really can't stop laughing over this one. There's not even a mark on her.
Oh my goodness, those scary cats. LOL
Our breeder has a Sphynx cat that these two knew but now if they see one in a carrier at the vet, they are very curious.
Nice job with the exteriors! I haven't gotten close to that part but we still have a lot of snow on the ground and I'm a wimp.
Our breeder has a Sphynx cat that these two knew but now if they see one in a carrier at the vet, they are very curious.
Nice job with the exteriors! I haven't gotten close to that part but we still have a lot of snow on the ground and I'm a wimp.
Thanks! And I'm a wimp too, which is why we waited for no snow on the ground, 50 and sunny with noticeable breeze but not exactly windy to try exteriors
MichiH
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Oh my goodness her running and the yip yip yip, too funny and so cute! I am
tooAwesome on the nosework! I think it is wonderful you took it up with both your girls! I’m sure they’re loving it too!
