Nosework Thread

[Rits]

Well it was inevitable to have one for nosework too to openly discuss all things Nosework

Cool! Are you close to trialing? Oops, guess we can continue this in the sports section.... I just get so excited to see Ripley doing All.The.Things!

Next weekend we will be at a show and they are hosting their first Nosework trial... And we are going for it! Tonight is my last class for our first session of Nosework and our instructor said we are ready!

Doing UKC novice containers and vehicles. I won't be there both days as we are going to a wedding on Saturday so Sunday only it is but that'll be fine, get our feet wet.

The cool thing though is if Ripley places in conformation then Qs in Nosework that day she will qualify for ukc's total dog and the show will give out total dog awards and I think do a best in show for only total dog qualified dogs!

 

[Panama]

That is so awesome. I'm sure Ripley will rock it!

 

[Ravenbird]

Yea! A nose work thread! Like @Panama said, I'll bet Ripley rocks it.

I should be going to a trial the 30/31st (LOL Halloween!). Asha is due for a heat in November... she better not be early I had to go to the vet last May to get an official declaration of "In Season" & my entry fees back. That's one thing about NACSW, they let you trial in season (last & with pants on). Anyway, doing all four elements - Interior, exterior, containers & buried - each day.

@Rits I'm looking forward to your report (and I just know you'll have some photos!) for Ripleys first NW and hopefully the Total Dog!

 

[Rits]

That's one thing about NACSW, they let you trial in season (last & with pants on).

I really think all events should let you. Its part of training. Your dog is being rewarded for a specific odor...not a bitch in season. (And it's obedience in other areas)

Speaking of that was a big discussion at our last class last night. UKC changed up the rules on ring size requirements for running two trials side by side. They now have to have physical walls between them or be 50 ft apart!! Because they are worried about residual odor. But my instructor said dogs aren't looking for or rewarded for residual odor. They are looking for the source! They should know the difference. That's good training. So now a lot of clubs are in hot mess because they don't have buildings equipped for those qualifications... People are already up in arms with UKC Nosework for changing the rules a couple of years ago and getting really nitpicky on what is deemed aggressive alerting on containers (it was supposed to be any kind of foot touching the container was a fault, even as an alert) so I'm sure this didn't help any. Some judges simply don't care and refuse to fault it...

That's the same weekend we are trialing. Can't wait to hear how it goes for you and Asha!! Buried is an awesome class! We have yet to do it since it isn't offered in UKC but we will in January at our next session of classes since we will be advancing.

 

[Ravenbird]

I really think all events should let you. Its part of training. Your dog is being rewarded for a specific odor...not a bitch in season. (And it's obedience in other areas)

EXACTLY. What if you had a bomb dog that ran off the rails because he smelled a bitch in heat? And when you think about it, intact male dogs are "in heat" all the time! LOL.

they are worried about residual odor. But my instructor said dogs aren't looking for or rewarded for residual odor. They are looking for the source! They should know the difference.

You've got a great instructor. This is exactly what I was taught.

Bashing boxes is pretty much a big no-no with all the groups I think. Train your dogs. Asha was really bad about it at first. It might be why she doesn't like to work boxes - because I wouldn't allow her to stomp them. She's pretty much over it, but I don't practice boxes too much anymore.

 

[Rits]

Bashing boxes is pretty much a big no-no with all the groups I think. Train your dogs. Asha was really bad about it at first. It might be why she doesn't like to work boxes - because I wouldn't allow her to stomp them. She's pretty much over it, but I don't practice boxes too much anymore.

Yes of course for bashing/smashing boxes but UKC will (should per the rules) fault even a gentle paw touching it to alert. He said AKC doesn't care as much. Thankfully Ripley is over smashing them lol the first few weeks were interesting but we just ignored it and worked through it since we were keeping the scent drive up and didn't want to squash it. She grew out of it and gets better and better but she, also like Asha, doesn't care for containers as much because half the fun is stomping on them. Must be a doberman thing

 

[Ravenbird]

Packing up to go to our NW trial. My trials are all so far away, gotta leave Friday to trial Sat & Sun and come home Monday. Hoping it all goes well, but looking forward to a good time no matter what. I don't do a lot of internet stuff when traveling, so want to wish @Rits & Ripley a good (fun) time at your first NW on Sunday!

 

[Rits]

Packing up to go to our NW trial. My trials are all so far away, gotta leave Friday to trial Sat & Sun and come home Monday. Hoping it all goes well, but looking forward to a good time no matter what. I don't do a lot of internet stuff when traveling, so want to wish @Rits & Ripley a good (fun) time at your first NW on Sunday!

Good luck to you and Asha too on all four of the elements you are doing! Can't wait to hear about it.

 

[JanS]

Good luck to you both!!!

 

[Ravenbird]

You guys, I'm so stoked, so proud of my Asha. Gonna start a new thread just for Ashas Nose Work.

 

[Rits]

@Ravenbird Can't wait to read! We didn't end up going! A little bummed but thats ok we continue to practice at home and she has just as much fun. She's getting SO good too. We play a variety of games at home with the scents. Lately I've been having fun placing the tin in various places in rooms and sending her in without me. She absolutely loves it. We'll trial soon in the future. We had something come up here at home with our new house that we needed to be home for so we opted to stay home the entire weekend instead of driving 3 hours one way for just one day.

 

[Ravenbird]

We had something come up here at home with our new house that we needed to be home for so we opted to stay home the entire weekend instead of driving 3 hours one way for just one day

Hope it's all good now. Life gets in the way of our dog fun way too often!

 

[Dasz88]

I'm posting this in the nosework thread but maybe should be making a new thread. I have been in touch with the folks at Michigan Search and Rescue and they've invited us to their trainings! They'll evaluate baby gilly for his potential as a SAR dog!

 

[Rits]

I'm posting this in the nosework thread but maybe should be making a new thread. I have been in touch with the folks at Michigan Search and Rescue and they've invited us to their trainings! They'll evaluate baby gilly for his potential as a SAR dog!

Wow that'll be exciting! Yes SAR while they use their nose is a lot more to it so I'd love to follow your journey and hear all about it in a thread!!

 

[Ravenbird]

have been in touch with the folks at Michigan Search and Rescue and they've invited us to their trainings! They'll evaluate baby gilly for his potential as a SAR dog!

Awesome! If I'd just known/thought about this 20 -30 years ago I may have had a different life. There are a few SAR/HRD dogs in Ashas family and I did talk to a gal in CO. who does SAR but even if my dog was a star, I'm just at an age where I don't want to start a new career, and truly it would turn into a life long thing, not a weekend joyride. So I opted for trials & fun competitions. I can't imagine a more fulfilling thing to do with your dog than SAR or HRD. Best of luck on evaluations - for sure keep us posted! If you go to United Doberman Club website their magazine is online and I think it's free to look at. Almost every issue has an article about Dobermans doing SAR. You might enjoy that.

 

[Ravenbird]

Yesterday we went on a long hike, about 5 miles total, out & back. I decided to do an article search (human scent), so I put a clean Kleenex in my bra for 30 minutes, then tucked it in at ground level by a shrub while Asha was romping off ahead somewhere. We got to our point of destination, turned around and came back the same way. When we got close to where I hid the Kleenex, I held Asha by the collar (no change of equipment for a defining our work like I usually do) and she instantly knew we were "doing something". I led her to a spot about 30 feet from the hide and told her Find The Article!, which is our command for human scent. She instantly went into search mode and found it in less than 30 seconds. Nose Work is so freaking natural to her, she just amazes me! I still need to work on downing at articles. I just did this on a whim, and was so happy when she found it and looked up at me, I was so happy I just showered her in treats. I had even planned on how to abort the mission if she didn't go into search or couldn't find it. In the video toward the end you can see a classic change of behavior when she abruptly changes direction after she passes the hide, goes right to it with her nose and looks up at me.

 

[Ravenbird]

^^^ and this brings me to another question - @Rits don't you do lots of YouTube stuff? I uploaded this video onto YouTube this morning and for some reason it went to "Shorts" which is something I wasn't even aware of, and had 200 views in an hour and now 8 hours later over 1,000 views. I really don't care who sees it, but I can't seem to undo that. YT puts it on some kind of feed to millions of people I guess? I'm not into a million people seeing my dog training. And most of the "Shorts" are people trying to get attention/be funny/get famous/go viral, so my short videos really don't belong there. And then when I posted it here, just now it says that I disabled playing on other websites? I didn't do anything like that. Ugh. These tech things drive me nuts.

 

[Rits]

^^^ and this brings me to another question - @Rits don't you do lots of YouTube stuff? I uploaded this video onto YouTube this morning and for some reason it went to "Shorts" which is something I wasn't even aware of, and had 200 views in an hour and now 8 hours later over 1,000 views. I really don't care who sees it, but I can't seem to undo that. YT puts it on some kind of feed to millions of people I guess? I'm not into a million people seeing my dog training. And most of the "Shorts" are people trying to get attention/be funny/get famous/go viral, so my short videos really don't belong there. And then when I posted it here, just now it says that I disabled playing on other websites? I didn't do anything like that. Ugh. These tech things drive me nuts.

I think it's when your video is under a minute it automatically goes there. I don't think they allow videos that short to be regular YT videos, unfortunately. Drives me crazy too because they don't auto embed here.

 

[Ravenbird]

I think it's when your video is under a minute it automatically goes there. I don't think they allow videos that short to be regular YT videos, unfortunately. Drives me crazy too because they don't auto embed here.

Thanks, it's just never happened before! I've been looking for answers and pretty much not anything you can do.
What I found:
YouTube videos with 60 seconds length and vertical orientation are considered as Shorts videos in most cases. If your video fulfills such criteria, then it is possible that when you upload videos (or your existing videos) are turn into YouTube Shorts. SO, longer than 60 seconds or turn the phone sideways so it's not in vertical orientation. So MANY of our nose work trial videos are less than a minute, especially when just one hide. Grrr.

Edit to say, the link above works fine, it just is viewed on a new page instead of embedded here.

 

[Rits]

Thanks, it's just never happened before! I've been looking for answers and pretty much not anything you can do.
What I found:
YouTube videos with 60 seconds length and vertical orientation are considered as Shorts videos in most cases. If your video fulfills such criteria, then it is possible that when you upload videos (or your existing videos) are turn into YouTube Shorts. SO, longer than 60 seconds or turn the phone sideways so it's not in vertical orientation. So MANY of our nose work trial videos are less than a minute, especially when just one hide. Grrr.

Might have to film 31 seconds of nothing at the end then it is annoying! I usually record or take pics horizontal unless it's a portrait shot but haven't checked if that helps any so good to know it might..

Btw! Love the video. At 5 seconds you can see she caught a bit but was up wind. Then 20 seconds must've been down wind cause she instantly started sourcing.