Orijen puppy vs Orijen puppy large

[Zippo]

So I've been feeding Orijen puppy for both our dogs, 6 month dachund/beagle and Zippo 4 month dobe. So Zippo could afford to gain a few pounds so I decided to go with regular puppy since it has more calories and he definitely needs it, that's all I've seen in a difference from puppy to large puppy Orijen.

Does this seem like an okay thing to do?

 

[MeadowCat]

There is a different calcium/phosphorus ratio...your Doberman pup should be getting the large breed puppy formula or you could have issues with improper growth.

 

[Zippo]

There is a different calcium/phosphorus ratio...your Doberman pup should be getting the large breed puppy formula or you could have issues with improper growth.

That is the one thing I did check before buying, and they are practically indentical in cal/phos..

 

[MeadowCat]

Yes, but the calorie content of the food actually is a factor, too. When you have a higher calorie food it changes the calculations. This is a handy calculator to see if a food is appropriate: How to Choose the Best Large Breed Puppy Food and Lower Your Dog’s Risk of Hip Dysplasia

 

[Zippo]

Yes, but the calorie content of the food actually is a factor, too. When you have a higher calorie food it changes the calculations. This is a handy calculator to see if a food is appropriate: How to Choose the Best Large Breed Puppy Food and Lower Your Dog’s Risk of Hip Dysplasia

Good to know, so helpful!!!!! Thank you.

 

[Zippo]

Good to know, so helpful!!!!! Thank you.

I just did the calculator, and the ratios fall into what they should with the regular puppy food....

 

[Archer]

Fat is a factor too as is protein. I fed Orijen LB puppy over Orijen puppy

 

[strykerdobe]

Besides what you are feeding. Early Spay/Neuter can contribute to joint and bone issues. Also leading to Enocrine issues.

 

[Zippo]

Besides what you are feeding. Early Spay/Neuter can contribute to joint and bone issues. Also leading to Enocrine issues.

We are waiting 2 years if not at all for neuter.

 

[Zippo]

Fat is a factor too as is protein. I fed Orijen LB puppy over Orijen puppy

The difference in fat is 16% for large breed and 20% for regular puppy.

 

[Zippo]

Here are the guidelines and the results of the regular puppy food...

 

[MeadowCat]

What you have input here is different than what's listed on their website for the puppy formula? They list calcium 1.2%, phosphorus .9%, and 3960 kcal/kg?

In any case, when feeding a puppy food, I would personally always choose large breed puppy food for a Doberman. It's designed for slow growth, which is what you want for a Doberman pup. I wouldn't risk pano or other problems. Or, I would feed an adult formula. Just my opinion, based on my research.

 

[Zippo]

What you have input here is different than what's listed on their website for the puppy formula? They list calcium 1.2%, phosphorus .9%, and 3960 kcal/kg?

In any case, when feeding a puppy food, I would personally always choose large breed puppy food for a Doberman. It's designed for slow growth, which is what you want for a Doberman pup. I wouldn't risk pano or other problems. Or, I would feed an adult formula. Just my opinion, based on my research.

 

[Zippo]

What you have input here is different than what's listed on their website for the puppy formula? They list calcium 1.2%, phosphorus .9%, and 3960 kcal/kg?

In any case, when feeding a puppy food, I would personally always choose large breed puppy food for a Doberman. It's designed for slow growth, which is what you want for a Doberman pup. I wouldn't risk pano or other problems. Or, I would feed an adult formula. Just my opinion, based on my research.

The puppy large is the 3,000ish cals and 1.2/.9%, I think ya just mixed em up

 

[NikiL02]

Why do you feel he needs more calories?

With a puppy you should easily feel their ribs and backbone. Also a dobe puppy should start to develop a tuck up too. They should be on the slimmer side.

 

[Zippo]

Why do you feel he needs more calories?

With a puppy you should easily feel their ribs and backbone. Also a dobe puppy should start to develop a tuck up too. They should be on the slimmer side.

Our vet did say he's underweight, all blood work, everything normal, he's just so lanky and skinny. I couldn't imagine giving him a food with less calories at this point

 

[MeadowCat]

Our vet did say he's underweight, all blood work, everything normal, he's just so lanky and skinny. I couldn't imagine giving him a food with less calories at this point

Are you feeding three meals a day? I'd be more inclined to just increase meals or amount per meal, rather that using the regular puppy formula. Again, that's just me, but...I would either feed large breed puppy or feed an adult formula rather than a regular puppy formula, since when it comes to growth, Dobes are considered a large breed.