Common ancestry

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Grandparents and great grandparents


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Miesha, Jedi, and Drogon all share Fedor del Nasi. I looked him up and wow 'he got around' lol. Look at all those off-spring FEDOR DEL NASI - World Pedigree DataBase Dobermann, Dobermann Pedigree DataBase.
I guess that's what you get when you're
JgSg IDC2003
IDC Sg2005

Then his off-spring also went Sieger, Siegerin, & Jgd.Sieger in 2009.
Which I guess is what is meant by
IDC 2009 - BEST PRODUCER

I think Sieger = winner, Siegerin=co-winner(?), Jgd Sieger = Junior winner(?)

I see Pathos delle Querce Nere in there too for Jedi & Miesha..who is the offspring of Urbano Del Diamante Nero which Drogon has as well!!
 
Fedor is not spoken very highly of in most Doberman circles because of the DCM connection. It is assumed this is how he died, although it has not been verified. There are others in the line that had it as well, so even though he was one of the most used stud dogs at the time his line is somewhat "blacklisted" - unofficially - for many breeders, especially here in the states. He is probably in more Euro pedigrees than any other dog at this time, so I'm not surprised to see him pop up like this, and I'm sure others with a Euro pedigree have him in there as well. He was a magnificent Dobermann in many ways, but like many Dobermans nowadays there is the question of health.
 
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Looks like Izrafel-Maya Di Altobello too on the Dam side too

I don't think Albert shares a lot of lines with any of the dogs listed here, aside from the Altobello part, which is the part I'm posting here.
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Looks like we have Nadja Nikita Altobello, Gamon di Campovalano and looks like Adamant De Grande Vinko is full brother to Akuna-Matata De Grand Vinko who is Miesha's Granddam.
This stuff is SO COOL!!!!
 
I was thinking that Tahi Reme Max would be a common one but no one has spoken up yet.

I see Luna also has Fedor del Nasi found this on her sire (Dartagnan_Pedigree)

Wow - Fedor did really get around didn't he?? lol

There seems to be lots of Altobello in Luna's and Miehsa's pedigrees and some of the others as well. @Prushanks I see you have Kimbertal as well. I believe that Luna does too on her dam's side although I haven't seem the dam's pedigree yet so I can't confirm. During my research I came across some nasty comments about Kimbertal on another forum which seems to have lots of negative comments about lots of breeders - in fact a number of threads seemed to be flame wars - very negative vibe! I'm not sure I put any stock in that kind of commentary.
 

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