Fort Worth HOA Bans Certain Breeds of Dogs

[Drogon]

"From this point forward, the following will not be permitted within the Remington Point Villas HOA: Pit Bulls, German Shepherds, Rottweiler or Doberman. Any breed or mixed breeds containing any portion of Pit Bull, German Shepherds, Rottweiler or Doberman..."

State law prohibits Texas cities and counties from banning any breed of dogs.

http://www.texomashomepage.com/stor...n-breeds-of-dogs/22282/c4eU5VvIuU2j7alns3Yv0g

 

[Gelcoater]

"From this point forward, the following will not be permitted within the Remington Point Villas HOA: Pit Bulls, German Shepherds, Rottweiler or Doberman. Any breed or mixed breeds containing any portion of Pit Bull, German Shepherds, Rottweiler or Doberman..."

State law prohibits Texas cities and counties from banning any breed of dogs.

http://www.texomashomepage.com/stor...n-breeds-of-dogs/22282/c4eU5VvIuU2j7alns3Yv0g

Bummer.
Will be an interesting case.
It says State law prohibits "cities and counties" from banning breeds.It does not say it prohibits a private HOA from doing the same.

Wouldn't it be great for one of the neighbors to adopt a Tibetan Mastiff and bring it to the next HOA meeting and give them all the finger?

 

[Oh Little Oji]

It would still be discriminatory, but it would be an intermediate step to require those with breeds deemed dangerous to pass a test, and to have their dogs pass a test that would help show the dogs are not likely to act in a dangerous fashion.

 

[Drogon]

It's pure ignorance. Why not ban Belgian Malinois or Anatolian Shepherd or Bull mastiff or Tibetan mastiff

 

[strykerdobe]

Would never live where they have an HOA!

 

[Gelcoater]

Would never live where they have an HOA!

+1
Some aren't so bad but others are pure Asshats.
When they start telling you things like you HAVE to park your car in the garage and not your own driveway,or that you CAN NOT change your spark plugs in your own drive way...
Or you can't park your RV or boat on the side of your house,behind the fence...WTF is that?Who pays my mortgage again?
I know of a gated community here in So Cal (Canyon Lake) where you can not ride your motorcycle within the community.You have to push it.
We almost moved there,until I started really evaluating some things.

 

[shadash]

I will never live in a hoa house. Currently we live in a non hoa area and I can't believe all the drama that goes on.

Give some of these people a little power and they'd go crazy.

 

[Oh Little Oji]

HOA has never seemed like a good idea to me. Like an opportunity for power trips, childishness and persnicketiness.

On the other hand, some neighbors need to be kept in line. If an HOA would help keep people from blocking the sidewalks with their trash cans and cars, and would maybe even get them to have some fear of speeding on the street, I would be for it.

If wanting unfettered access to our public rights of way (you know, being able to walk and run and have children roll their toys on the sidewalk) and wanting drivers to keep it to the speed limit is persnickety, then that's what I am.

What do y'all think?

 

[DreamingDoberman]

I got attacked pretty badly on a facebook post posted by a news outlet since of course I was against this. And people were crazy on me saying dangerous these dogs are. Funny how when that golden killed a 2 month old baby the news doesn't take that and run since it wasn't a pit or a rottie.

 

[Gelcoater]

HOA has never seemed like a good idea to me. Like an opportunity for power trips, childishness and persnicketiness.

On the other hand, some neighbors need to be kept in line. If an HOA would help keep people from blocking the sidewalks with their trash cans and cars, and would maybe even get them to have some fear of speeding on the street, I would be for it.

If wanting unfettered access to our public rights of way (you know, being able to walk and run and have children roll their toys on the sidewalk) and wanting drivers to keep it to the speed limit is persnickety, then that's what I am.

What do y'all think?

We don't have sidewalks on our dead end street.And you might be surprised at how driving habits change when one gets called out by a neighbor or two
The "right of way" on private roads.According to the county,I own the street from property line to property line to the center of the road.
I'm responsible for asphalt repairs.
A plus I can think of with Hoa's is on paint selection,colors need to be approved.
Prevents someone from having a neighbor with a pink house.

On the other hand,if one wanted a pink house,an HOA would prevent them from their Liberty and persuit of happiness.

 

[Marinegeekswife]

Would never live where they have an HOA!

I always said the same thing but sometimes they are hard to avoid. We're out in unincorporated Missouri and still have an HOA for our little 9 house street. Thankfully ours pretty much just exists to ensure people pay to help keep the road in good condition since neither the county nor any city have responsibility. Only real regulation we aren't thrilled with is no chickens. I think that's just to keep people from getting obnoxious roosters. My understanding is that we could get away with having them as long as we were good with upkeep and didn't let them get gross or annoying. Others have, anyway.

 

[Oh Little Oji]

We don't have sidewalks on our dead end street.And you might be surprised at how driving habits change when one gets called out by a neighbor or two
The "right of way" on private roads.According to the county,I own the street from property line to property line to the center of the road.
I'm responsible for asphalt repairs.
A plus I can think of with Hoa's is on paint selection,colors need to be approved.
Prevents someone from having a neighbor with a pink house.

On the other hand,if one wanted a pink house,an HOA would prevent them from their Liberty and persuit of happiness.

Yeah, I've lived on a road like that. Also lived on a private lane with three houses. We owned the road on our property, and some land beyond the road. When people drove too fast across my property to the one house beyond us I took it especially personally. But as usual I had to think of my wife's wishes and reputation so I didn't call anyone out.

Now, on the no-outlet street we're on that is city owned, I did have to all out one punk who, clearly through his parents' money has a shiny new Mustang Rousch RS2 that he liked to run up and down our street. I had enough of the noise and speed during my daughter's nap times and bed times so I had to confront him despite my wife's wishes. Oh what a punk that dude and his friend were in response. Deserving of a beating.

There are plenty of others on this street that need to be called out. Unfortunately, it seems that the concept that you drive reasonably slowly and respectfully on a residential street seems to be a thing of the past.

Thank you, and yes, breed bans are bad.

 

[Dobs4ever]

I need to check but I just read a study that they proved bite incidents actually went up after breed bands and so did attacks requiring hospitalization. WHY??? BECAUSE BSL does not understand it is NOT a breed problem it is an owner problem. Lack of training and socializing dogs by far is the biggest problem.

Now on to the chickens just to show how stupid their are. WHY not ban roosters if that is their concern. Seems much easier and smarter to me but government has never been known for smartness or common sense.

 

[Gelcoater]

I need to check but I just read a study that they proved bite incidents actually went up after breed bands and so did attacks requiring hospitalization. WHY??? BECAUSE BSL does not understand it is NOT a breed problem it is an owner problem. Lack of training and socializing dogs by far is the biggest problem.

Now on to the chickens just to show how stupid their are. WHY not ban roosters if that is their concern. Seems much easier and smarter to me but government has never been known for smartness or common sense.

We're zoned for chickens but No roosters.
Someone a few streets overs cheating though

 

[Oh Little Oji]

Same here. Chickens but no roosters allowed where we used to live. Surprisingly here in the middle of Cincinnati we have a house on our street with chickens. Nice guy, he's on the neighborhood council. Not sure if that's related.

 

[Marinegeekswife]

Now on to the chickens just to show how stupid their are. WHY not ban roosters if that is their concern. Seems much easier and smarter to me but government has never been known for smartness or common sense.

Um...has nothing to do with government in the sense you're talking. It is literally just things that a bunch of the people on our street agreed to years ago...

 

[Gretchen_Red]

@DreamingDoberman since owning Dobes and going to shows THE Hands down winner of most unstable dogs we've come across are Goldens!!! 1 was off leash at A SCHOOL!!! And ran after G (who was on a leash thankfully) and another left a down position to lunge at her! The odd thing is neither showed aggressive body language and THAT scares me!

 

[katie's mom]

am i understanding correctly.....they are saying that no one can purchase or obtain one of the breeds from "this day forward" ? surely they are not saying that homes that already have a dobie (or other mentioned breeds) would now have to get rid of it?

 

[Gelcoater]

am i understanding correctly.....they are saying that no one can purchase or obtain one of the breeds from "this day forward" ? surely they are not saying that homes that already have a dobie (or other mentioned breeds) would now have to get rid of it?

The way I read it...those breeds are not allowed,period.
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forward, the following will not be permitted within the Remington Point Villas HOA: Pit Bulls, German Shepherds, Rottweiler or Doberman. Any breed or mixed breeds containing any portion of Pit Bull, German Shepherds, Rottweiler or Doberman.
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The fact the owner got the letter after getting the pup tells me someone(s) a part of the decision and rule making of the HOA doesn't want a Pitbull in their little utopia and has a power trip going to voice such.

As pointed out,State law now prohibits breed bans.The question is can a private HOA over ride state law.
I'm thinking they might.
That home owner,one way or another will have some soul searching to do.Move away from a Nazi like controlling Remington Villas or lawyer up,knowing that win or lose their dealings with the HOA have just begun.

 

[Drogon]

The question is can a private HOA over ride state law.

It wouldn't really be overriding the law because there isn't a law that says all breeds are allowed, there's just not a law that bans breeds.

I'm pretty sure the HOA can make up whatever rules they want provided they don't violate laws/constitution. If enough of the home owners complain then I assume they could force the HOA to change their rules. Maybe if the houses in the HOA were in high demand, maybe the HOA wouldn't care if people moved out because of their rules.