Need a helping hand selecting my Euro Bred import

Davis

Davis

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Hey everyone I'm new to the forum, I introduced myself in the provided forum section for it, but I figured the best place to seek some help would be in this section!

I'm currently living in the UK, and my girlfriend and I have reached the stage we're ready to welcome a new pup into our home! It's out first Doberman but not our first dog. I've been researching and mentally preparing myself to take on the challenge for quite some time now and I've been doing my homework on importing to the best of my ability, but some personal advice and a helping hand would be much obliged from other users!!

I've been in contact with a few different breeders already just seeking information and litter dates preparing myself in advance to make my final decision. I'm searching to have my pup from a reputable healthy bloodline, with all the legal documentation in accordance to UK vet standards, pedigree papers, pet passport, and basically have the transaction run smoothly as possible with out creating an ordeal of stress and worrying about the pup during the waiting process... We want a dobe that puts his family, love and affection first, but keeps security and protection in mind as well. Also I've never done dog shows or anything of that sort but thats not to say that I'd love to try something amateur and work my way up with our dobe in the future, so I'm taking that in mind as well!

Breeder recommendations, personal experiences, or general knowledge on the matter what so ever would be comforting to hear! Thanks for reading

-taylor
 
Yes that was our plan to get an imported european dobe with doc and crop, I'm originally from Canada and chances are within the next few years will be moving back so the show side of it will be fine there. That isn't the main purpose of the pup so I'm not basing who I buy him/her off completely on that aspect, but in the future it is something I'd love to be a part of as long as the pup is happy doing it
 
Welcome From Missouri Taylor - Glad you joined us.

Things to always consider when purchasing a puppy - Breeder active in the breed - ie member of breed club and or active in showing or training and trialing their own dogs not just talk about all the titles someone else back in the pedigree did.

Knowledgeable and open to answering questions about temperament and health in their lines- honest.

Write down the things that are most important to you and discuss it with several breeders - that way you will get a good feel for them and who you are most comfortable with.

Puppies are happy doing what we train them to do if we train it correctly. Some will enjoy it more than others but obedience to the job is still obedience.
 
Thanks for the info, I've been taking all these factors into consideration for quite some time and researching all I can to educate myself with the breed as much as possible. I've spoken previously with members from clubs like you advised, researched health problem within bloodlines.

- But, most the people I've been in touch with are UK doberman breeders who also deal with handling importing european dogs for clients who are interested. I'm not sure if its within forum policy to mention the direct names of the kennels or not? For now I wont mention any names.

I've also been searching, and searching forums reading peoples related topics to mine, to try and get an idea on right breeder ideas, and I've tried to reach out personally to websites of European Breeders (Again not sure if mentioning kennel names is allowed, if anyone knows let me know!)
I've emailed 3 different ones only one replied to me so far, hence why I'm in desperate need of some assurance to comfort my decision in the end!
Any more feed back will obliged as well!
 
Davis said:
I'm not sure if its within forum policy to mention the direct names of the kennels or not? For now I wont mention any names. I've also been searching, and searching forums reading peoples related topics to mine, to try and get an idea on right breeder ideas, and I've tried to reach out personally to websites of European Breeders (Again not sure if mentioning kennel names is allowed, if anyone knows let me know!)
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Yes, you can mention names - that's not a problem. :)

Good for you for asking the questions and doing all of your research in advance!
 
Ah thanks for clearing that up! So far from Europe I've contacted pride of Russia, alto belo, dura lex polinia, as well as most recently suggested dobergaarden. On top of those I contacted local uk breeders who deal with importing these sort of breeds as well mentioned earlier. Right now I'm just playing the waiting game and weighing my options. Uniquedobermans also looked like they had stunning pups but I don't think their price range is in my budget. Any other known breeder suggestions still appreciated!
 
I personally would not work with a dog importer - They have no vested interest with temperament, training, showing etc. Work directly with a breeder. It is also another layer to deal with if you have a problem. Go direct to the source and deal direct with the source.

Are you wanting to import so you can have c/d???? Just curious.
 
Let me first say welcome and congratulations on choosing the best breed. It sounds like you are first looking for a pet, 2nd for protection/security and 3rd possibly show. Just keep in mind that if you tell a breeder you are looking for a working/protection dog, there will be many hours of training needed. Pet quality dogs will still require a fair amount of training but a working breed puppy might have you banging your head against the wall. These dogs have tons of drive and require professional training. If this is your first Doberman, you may want to be clear with your breeder exactly what you are looking for. Good luck and keep is posted on your new family member when you get it.
 
The people I've spoken with aren't just importers. I wouldn't deal with anyone I didn't feel comfortable with or didn't have the pups best interests in mind, but again I'm no professional about Dobermans or their breeders and I can only trust what my gut tells me to.. and how ever much I can research.
One of the breeders who mentioned he could import to his kennel is apart of the Uk International Doberman club and had a lot of information I could research via web about what he does and several picture of his pups and kennel and had relations to working with a lot of the blood lines I was interested in.

and to answer your question, no that isn't the only reason I want to import a doberman for a c/d.. but it does play in a roll in the final decision
 
I think you are very brave to be looking for an Euro import for your first Dobe, I would really want breeder support at my fingertips if it were my first Doberman, especially just getting one sent over and not being able to go and meet the sire and dam and if you have problems as many do your on your own so to speak, Dobermans are such a unique breed, there are some very good UK breeders Dogs | Amazon Dobermanns they have some really good bloodlines, health test and show with lots os success and are real heavyweight dogs.
 
Davis said:
no that isn't the only reason I want to import a doberman for a c/d.. but it does play in a roll in the final decision
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As far as quality goes, I can assure you Dobergarden Forever can supply you an excellent pup,much higher than your expectations, but the kennel being in Denmark there is no chance of having a cropped or docked pup from them...

The owner Hanne is very keen on titling her dogs both in conformation & work..I know for a fact she has supplied quite a few dogs to UK and even supports them at shows they attend..

You have to decide on that your self..do you want a good healthy pup which is not cropped/docked or do you want a cropped/docked pup from a kennel not so keen on health or quality?

One other point I would like to make is,we all love the look of cropped ears but do you know the procedure of having those ears up?

Do you know that you will have to attend those ears for a minimum of 3-4 months? Cleaning and wrapping (posting) them every 4-5 days?

This is not an easy task for a beginner and specially, you being in UK it will not be easy for you to face the general public which will NOT approve and tell you off for doing so, at every oportunity!!
 
Thank you for the advice, I'm well aware of the procedure and daily routine for having the pups ears done like I mentioned I'm not basing any decision getting a pup just based off how I'd like them to look at all, Bare in mind I'm an outdoors man, I spend 3-6 hours outside daily, whether it's chopping wood for one of my summer homes or going on hikes with the girlfriend to playing games in the garden! This is the very first reason that popped into my mind when I considered buying a doberman from Europe because from what I've researched they tend to have more drive and be more energetic and have a working aspect to their personality. Not saying I don't feel a uk doberman would suit me at all, I'm just the type of man who likes to weigh his options and be 100% confident in a big decision like this.. After all a dog is for life! - but who's to say I can't find a healthy one from a loving breeder in Europe that can breed the right healthy and happy pup to suit me? Having the the ears and tail done are just an option if it's viable. Don't take me for having the wrong idea here, if I can't find the pup and breeder I don't feel 100% right about for the sake of the pups well being and my own.. Then or course I will look into getting him/her locally. I'm just doing my best to my ability to research everything as possible and ask as many questions to know and be fully aware of what I'm getting into. As for the uk locals who will try to bash dog owners for their ears and tails, let it be said I'm big man myself with a thick skin, and I had a very assertive opinion and I'm not afraid to express it! No this doesn't mean telling off the public if someone shoots me a stray look but everyone in the world has their own opinion and who is anyone else to consider theirs the superior or force their opinion onto anyone else!
 
I wish you good luck...if you need any help in any way, don't hesitate to ask either here or by PM..

I know a lot of European breeders and the ones that i don't know, i have friends that know them..;)

Before you make the final decision to purchase,let me know your choice..
 
Hi, I am in a similar situation to you, in the UK looking to get a pup, possibly an import. I am based in Kent and have been to a breeders in Dover who also imports Euro lines (you possibly know them?). One of my concerns is that imported pups should be 15 weeks old and I am worried that I will have missed some of the socialisation landmarks time wise. Also I did go to the kennels mentioned and was surprised how big some of the dogs were, bearing in mind some of them were now six months old. I am also concerned that they may turn out to have too much drive for the UK, as there always seems to be various adverts here for import dogs of about 15 months old needing new homes etc.
 
I guess I don't understand why "breeders" would import other dogs. I do know that everywhere c/d has been banned the population has dropped drastically. Those who import here are puppy brokers who have no real knowledge or interest in bettering the breed and second we too see many turned into rescue from these folks also. JMHO
 
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