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Z List & Pedigrees

Discussion in 'Doberman Talk and Discussions' started by Panama, May 13, 2009.

  1. Panama

    Panama Hot Topics Subscriber

    I've been seeing a lot of "Fawn (Isabella) White Markings" in some pedigrees and on the Z List. On the pedigree it says 'Fawn (Isabella) White Markings", obviously a white.........white, cream, eggshell, offwhite..... whatever SHADE of white.......it's still white.....actually shows on the Z List as a "FAWN". Kind of makes me wonder how many registered Fawns are actually whites!!!

     
  2. apbtmom76

    apbtmom76 Guest

    That is a good question Panama. hmmm makes ya wonder doesn't it.
     
  3. Panama

    Panama Hot Topics Subscriber

    To those it matters to, yeah!
     
  4. apbtmom76

    apbtmom76 Guest

    No I know that but it really does make me wonder, I wonder how hard it would be to find out something like that?
     
  5. Panama

    Panama Hot Topics Subscriber

    More than likely impossible! A fawn should be registered as being "Fawn (Isabella) w/Tan Markings, NOT White Markings.
     
  6. apbtmom76

    apbtmom76 Guest

    and most people don't register them as that or what?? I would think that a fawn with tan markings would be different than a fawn with white markings, or a white, albino with what color markings or are the all white completely?
     
  7. hrd2gt

    hrd2gt Well-Known Member

    holy crap... how weird would it be to see a dog with WHITE markings?? even if it was black, red or blue... even fawn.... how is that even a choice... gawd
     
  8. Panama

    Panama Hot Topics Subscriber

    I don't think White or Albino were options on the paperwork. Some were probably registered as Fawn because they weren't snow white. I'm guessing (but looking into) that is the reason. If you look at a "white" that isn't snow white (as their white marking are almost invisible).... their markings are lighter than their coat.
     
  9. Panama

    Panama Hot Topics Subscriber

    Again, because some aren't "SNOW WHITE", some of the people producing them like to call them "Creams".
     
  10. apbtmom76

    apbtmom76 Guest

    ok gotcha, thanks Panama. :D
     
  11. JanS

    JanS DCF Owner Administrative Staff Moderator Hot Topics Subscriber

    I found one pic of a Fawn/white. It says Dobe, but I don't know if it's purebred or not.
     
  12. Panama

    Panama Hot Topics Subscriber

    Do you know if it is actually registered as "Fawn/white" or is that what someone called it on their website? I would say it was a purebred Dobe. The pink nose and bright pink around the eye...the shape of the markings....yeah, I'd say definitely a Dobe. Definitely not a Fawn though. Good example of one of the shades of white!
     
  13. JanS

    JanS DCF Owner Administrative Staff Moderator Hot Topics Subscriber

    Yes, the markings do look Dobe. This pic was just a Google image search and I think this particular dog was in a rescue. :(
     
  14. hrd2gt

    hrd2gt Well-Known Member

    WOW.. but there are a lot of dogs that have markings similiar to dobes... thats so... backwards...
     
  15. Panama

    Panama Hot Topics Subscriber

    Of course other dogs have similar marking, but they are tan or rust in color.
    The markings on the dog in the photo are very indicateive of an Albino/White.
     
  16. Panama

    Panama Hot Topics Subscriber

  17. Panama

    Panama Hot Topics Subscriber

    I've been thinking about this entire "white/albino" (which is how I used to put it)thing...and I always used the two (white & albino together)...and I've tried and tried to picture as many other "WHITE" dog breeds that I could think of..... the non-pigmented Doberman is not a "white" dog...it IS an ALBINO (which is how I will now put it)....

    Picture all of these breeds.....
    Great Pyrenees
    Samoyed
    Kuvasz
    Bedlington Terrier
    Westie
    Poodle
    Maltese
    Bichon
    American Eskimo
    Bull Terrier

    I'll even throw in the White Shepherd (recognized by the UKC)

    They're all white dogs...... they all have dark eyes & dark noses

    With the White Shepherd, blue eyes and/or lips that do not have black pigment on them are disqualified!

    Cream, eggshell, pale fawn......they'll use anything but the word ALBINO. I've seen them so light, you couldn't even tell they had white markings, and I've seen them where the white markings were very obvious.....to what degree doesn't matter...it is what it is!!!
     
  18. Panama

    Panama Hot Topics Subscriber

    Ooops I forget one......The Solid White Boxer or Boxer with more than 1/3 of the dog being white is a DQ, however, they do have dark eyes and a black nose!
     
  19. Panama

    Panama Hot Topics Subscriber

    Ok, I found a few pictures that might help you see what I meant about the Albino having white marking....

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  20. FredC

    FredC Guest

    god i so wish these dogs had a better rep, i so would love to own one. you cant deny they are Beautiful.
     

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