Vacation hike did not go well

Foxrider714

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So last weekend we had a little vacation (6 of us and 2 other dogs) with the family witch Bruce and Brooke love and there 2 dogs and it was our first time in the car for about 3hrs and when we got to the woods for the hike Bruce was crying bloody murder so loud i was so embarrassed and didn’t even know what to do cause if I gave him a no and even put pressure on his leash he some how went louder.. he would only get a little better if he would be in the front of our pack like he was on high alert for maybe the new smells of the animals and the woods? I get he had to of been excited new place and stuff but it’s not like we didn’t relax for an hour before we start walking what do you guys think?
 

Cferg

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How’s his focus and engagement with you on a day to day basis? When he’s not in the house and out in the real world. And how far off from that was he?
 

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Wow. So, he was barking/yelping because he was super excited? Did he not like to not be the first one in line? What was the cause here. I'm confused. Is a hike a very very uncommon thing?
 

Foxrider714

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Wow. So, he was barking/yelping because he was super excited? Did he not like to not be the first one in line? What was the cause here. I'm confused. Is a hike a very very uncommon thing?
We go for walks every day and go to the beach and things all the time.. this was a first like he was just so excited and it was more like a cry then a bark...and when we would walk out in front he would get so much better but it was just so crazy like you would of thought I was chocking him
 

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Do you think he could have been stung by a bee or something? I know there are lots of underground nests around here and they come out of nowhere to sting.
 

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We go for walks every day and go to the beach and things all the time.. this was a first like he was just so excited and it was more like a cry then a bark...and when we would walk out in front he would get so much better but it was just so crazy like you would of thought I was chocking him
Well that actually sounds familiar, but somewhat different particulars with Oji.

I'd never experienced this with a Dobe or a dog before, but: One thing that Oji has in spades vocality. (wow, I guess that's a word!) He is extremely vocal. I mean, pretty much all Dobes are very vocal; but Oji can be ridiculous.

So a scenario: Say we are going out for a walk, and Oji is at full energy. It's chilly or cold outside, which adds greatly to his energy. To make the trifecta, let's say there is a strong headwind, ramming scents up Oji's flared nostrils. If I put Oji on a heel, he will start doing what you probably would call crying. It sounds like he is being hurt. This is amplified if I happen to have someone with me and they are walking in front of us. If I have the e-collar on him and I use it to correct some forging, as you may imagine, the "crying" is more dramatic still.
 

jazzies mum

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One thing these dogs can do is vocalize, LOUDLY! Intense excitement seems to need to be yodelled about. Jazz loves going to our local markets but they only run for half a year. That first trip of the year she leans out the window and WAILS as soon as we turn in at the car park and it gets everyone looking with their jaws hanging, expecting to see a dog being tortured.

All I can say is that if you can go on these exciting trips often enough your dog "may" be able to contain his excitement, in the end. Maybe a good game of fetch or something similar might take the edge off too. Just a thought.
 

Foxrider714

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Well that actually sounds familiar, but somewhat different particulars with Oji.

I'd never experienced this with a Dobe or a dog before, but: One thing that Oji has in spades vocality. (wow, I guess that's a word!) He is extremely vocal. I mean, pretty much all Dobes are very vocal; but Oji can be ridiculous.

So a scenario: Say we are going out for a walk, and Oji is at full energy. It's chilly or cold outside, which adds greatly to his energy. To make the trifecta, let's say there is a strong headwind, ramming scents up Oji's flared nostrils. If I put Oji on a heel, he will start doing what you probably would call crying. It sounds like he is being hurt. This is amplified if I happen to have someone with me and they are walking in front of us. If I have the e-collar on him and I use it to correct some forging, as you may imagine, the "crying" is more dramatic still.
100% same thing with Bruce. He is very vocal and even his bark is crazy but I just could believe that he was acting like that on this walk and just the smallest pull on the leash he some how got higher lol..but unless he was up front he was better but like you said I do think it was cause of all the smells from being in the woods/mountains
 

Foxrider714

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Do you think he could have been stung by a bee or something? I know there are lots of underground nests around here and they come out of nowhere to sting.
Maybe Jan but he wasn’t acting like something was bothering him on his body
 

Kaiser2016

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it’s not like we didn’t relax for an hour before we start walking
I think THIS is the problem :spit: You sat and rested? You made him wait? :nono: Bruce is fully rested, so his energy is peak level, new environment means he's super amped to explore all those scents, but you, no you had to rest first :thumbdown: LOL, aren't these devils just adorable😆

Whining to get ahead of everyone? Sounds to me like he wants you to let him off leash so he can blast ahead of everyone and find others on the path far away - you'll know when he's found those people when you hear a steady pattern of barking way off in the distance - then he'll run back to you all excited about his discovery, and because he thinks he has convinced you to run like wolves with him, he'll run off again to find those people and bark some more, then he'll realize you were too dumb and slow to take the obvious cues he was giving you and he'll come running back wondering what's taking you so long. This time you'll manage to catch him and put him on leash, then about 30 minutes later you'll cross paths with the people he found and they'll tell you they saw a Doberman just like yours except that he was off leash, then you'll match their tone with a smile and say oh wow another Doberman, I hope we get to meet him too! :rofl:

expecting to see a dog being tortured
Skinned alive :rolleyes:
 

HappyJoe

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Joe did something similar when he saw the ocean for the first time. I can only describe it as a singing barking joy.
Like WOW! I had no idea! he bit at the foam and ran away when the waves "chased" him back. It seemed he tried to rein himself in, but couldn't.
A little better on the second exposure, but still, kind of crazy. People looked scared, then laughed when I told them it was the first time he had seen the ocean. Give your pup time and exposure.
 

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Our Glory has just started this behavior....and it is only when I take them to the park. SQUIRRELS! She screams when she sees squirrels now. And I mean; this just started over the past few months. Other people are walking around the park, and "most" see me often, and realize she is on squirrel patrol, but there are the occasional folks who strain their necks in my direction, to see if I am man handling my dog! When I see her amping up, I pull the collar up around her ears, and she'll walk right next to me; but does the high pitch squealing as the squirrels race past. Embarrassing!
I am considering putting the e collar on when we go to "squirrel haven" to remind her to SHUSH! :whistle:
 

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I am considering putting the e collar on when we go to "squirrel haven" to remind her to SHUSH!
Do it! I regret every time I let my dog practice behavior that was self rewarding & no correction. It really reinforces their belief of what they can or are able to do. I've learned way too late that the more they practice self-rewarding behavior the harder it becomes to correct it.
 

jazzies mum

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Do it! I regret every time I let my dog practice behavior that was self rewarding & no correction. It really reinforces their belief of what they can or are able to do. I've learned way too late that the more they practice self-rewarding behavior the harder it becomes to correct it.
Such a wonderful tool that ecollar is! Jazz and I were leaving for our morning walk this morning and the transmitter bumped something and gave Jazz an unwarranted stim. She froze and looked at me, thinking hard, and then came back to heel position. I apologised of course, but she still stuck to my leg until I clearly released her. :thumbsup2:
 

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Well, so much for starting today....it was 34 degrees this am, very cold for our area, so I had cotton gloves on...walking Glory at the park with the E collar on. Not a single squirrel to be found! I walk just as it gets light in the morning, so I figured they were all sleeping ;). We round the entire park, and now I am carrying a poo bag; holding leash, and controller.....Glory spots the squirrels chasing one another before I do, and without barking, she takes off after them as the leash slides right through my gloved hands. :shock:. I called her, and she came flying back to me, so I didn't even stim her....figured "handler error"!!! Start over tomorrow....without gloves on!
 

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I called her, and she came flying back to me, so I didn't even stim her
I find that the e-collar works 90% of the time just being on the neck. No transmitter needed. Kinda makes me cross though, the collar-wise thing of it, because she knows when she doesn't have it on.
 

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