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TOTW Ancient Grains dog food?

Discussion in 'Doberman Nutritional Care' started by Ddski5, May 20, 2020.

  1. Ddski5

    Ddski5 Hot Topics Subscriber $ Forum Donor $

    Is this new? I saw this the other day when I took Ragnar to Tractor Supply to get weighed.

    I checked out the ingredients and noted no peas, legumes or lentils. So is this their way to satisfy the conflict and worry about plant proteins possibly causing DCM? I know this is not proven but still- made me switch off plant based proteins food.

    I am interested in the Salmon, gets really hot down here and it may be a good cooler, variant protein to use during the summer months.

    Protein is a little high for me but the way he exercises with us at the soccer fields, it may just equal out....

    There is a lamb flavor but I read somewhere or @Kaiser2016? said somewhere that lamb is not a good source??

    Yes, realize it’s not RAW, so you guys/gals calm down there.

    Please express thoughts or input??
    Bash away if you want or compliment....

    Disclaimer: Currently on Fromm adult gold and have never seen Ragnar’s coat so shiny.

    Salmon flavor:


    Fowl flavor:

    Bison and Venison:

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  2. Kaiser2016

    Kaiser2016 Active Member

    My criticism of this kibble is that I’d prefer the first 5 ingredients to be named meats. That said, it’s awesome that they are addressing the plant protein problem.

    So off my memory, Lamb and rabbit are low taurine, but I had intended to research this further and never did until now and some surprising info came up:

    “Meat, eggs, and seafood provide the richest natural sources of taurine and are also complete proteins, containing all 10 essential amino acids. Larger animals like cows have lower levels of taurine than smaller animals like fish, and dark meat has a higher concentration of taurine than white meat (as do organ meats).”

    This link itemizes all the proteins half way down the page:
    The Importance of Taurine In Raw Cat Diets

    Good link to save and screenshot so you never lose it.
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  3. JanS

    JanS DCF Owner Administrative Staff Moderator Hot Topics Subscriber

    I think they came out with it late last summer or early fall and I've considered it but they've been doing great on the regular TOTW so I've just stuck with that.

    I know that @Logan 45 has been using the ancestral grains so hopefully he will chime in.
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  4. Lizbeli

    Lizbeli Hot Topics Subscriber

    Oh I am interested in this. Im also feeding Fromm Gold, I agree on the shiny coat. However I was thinking of finding something with more fish, maybe mixing or rotating proteins if his belly handles it okay.
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  5. Ddski5

    Ddski5 Hot Topics Subscriber $ Forum Donor $

    Yes, that was my thought process also.

    Fish is a good rotation but with that comes the fishy gas.....Hahahaha
    The wife and girls hate that.

    I say that, but I have not had him on any fish based kibble in over a year. He might handle it better now at 2.5y/o.
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  6. Logan 45

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    Yes I have fed this and I found the results to be good. The high prairie formula was a little rich for my dogs. I thought it was a solid food and it’s in my rotation. I like the concept of it and it does give you some piece of mind being grain inclusive and higher quality grains not corn, wheat or soy.I have also fed Fromm adult gold the black bag. I personally like to rotate foods I think it keeps things fresh for your dog and once the rotation is in place different foods have different vitamins, nutrients and protein sources. Not mention once their gut has adjusted they can handle the transition with no upset or gas.

    And as far as the dcm goes I’m definitely not the most educated. In my mind I would think the introduction of this product is definitely a marketing ploy to keep the customer base they established since people have abandoned grain free food to some degree.
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    WILD ACE Member

    as some of you may remember i feed grain free. as i had not found a food that has done well with ace in 2 years. i could not keep weight on him bad cow patty phoo . Victor yukon river salmon i have been able to keep him right about 70- 72 lbs on this, he great solid phoo ( unless he gets to much exersice in the day ) but i do like the the readings on this new totw.
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  8. Lizbeli

    Lizbeli Hot Topics Subscriber

    Im actually needing to buy some more dog food. Maybe ill bite the bullet and try this if my local store has it.
  9. Logan 45

    Logan 45 $ Premium Subscriber $ $ Forum Donor $

    @WILD ACE @Lizbeli I would definitely try it if you can get your hands a bag. I know it’s a stock item at tractor supply. If your local feed store carries totw grain free they might stock both now.
  10. JanS

    JanS DCF Owner Administrative Staff Moderator Hot Topics Subscriber

    Our feed store said they will order it for us but I'm one of the few who has asked about it so they haven't stocked it.
    How is the price compared to the regular TOTW?
  11. WILD ACE

    WILD ACE Member

    can order on chewy as well
  12. Rnrgyrl

    Rnrgyrl Hot Topics Subscriber

    Hi. I order on chewy and I have just switched my dogs to this and our first bag is the Buffalo and so far all the buffaloes in my house gobble this up!
  13. Ddski5

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    So, the ingredients have improved but....

    the truth is truly with the poop.

    After being fully transitioned over, how big are the poop piles? If the piles are big, then there are a lot of fillers in it and he is pooping more out than he is absorbing.

    Kinda funny, yes but this is all part of the poop patrol.

    So anybody have any testament to the poop pile?
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  14. Logan 45

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    The price is identical to the grain free I believe. It’s $46-47 a bag and I think like 48.99 at tractor supply.
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  15. JanS

    JanS DCF Owner Administrative Staff Moderator Hot Topics Subscriber

    I definitely won't order from Chewy but there are other options so it's not a big deal to me.
    Chewy supports HSUS
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  16. Rits

    Rits Admin Administrative Staff Moderator Hot Topics Subscriber

  17. Lizbeli

    Lizbeli Hot Topics Subscriber

    After looking at the amazon reviews and “questions” area people mention a recent lawsuit regarding lead for TOTW foods? Ill have to do way more research on it, see if its actually anything significant.

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