Ataro
Notable member
I want to warn anyone who is thinking of dealing with this Russian kennel, to go to Moscow and visit them to make sure they don't get ripped off. I have had no end of trouble with this breeder (from the hassle of actually getting the puppy with them expecting me to cross international borders in the middle of the night without even at least one day's notice, to the puppy itself) and I would not recommend them.
I recently bought a show prospect puppy from these people and the puppy is an absolute basket case with zero confidence and stability - it is unable to adjust to normal everyday life situations. I have had this puppy for 8 days and have tried to slowly introduce it to new people and environments, but it just shuts down and starts shivering or peeing at the slightest thing such as walking more than 50m/150ft away from the house. There has been absolutely no improvement since the day it arrived.
These breeders will lie through their teeth to make a profit and not stand by their word should something go wrong. This is in addition to their questionable practices such as raising the puppies in outdoor kennels with little to no socialization.
1. The breeder first told me that they never saw any problems with the puppy before. In fact, their description of her temperament was "confident and self-assured, but not dominant", but had I known otherwise, I would not have put down the deposit.
2. Then they admitted that she peed whenever she encountered something new, but that they thought it wasn't really a problem.
3. Then they said that some puppies not sold until they are 5 months old living in kennels can develop these sorts of behavioural issues (the puppy is 3 months old)
4. Now they are calling me a liar and saying that they have never seen temperament problems in any of the 500+ dogs they've bred and insinuated that I am not taking care of the puppy properly.
5. They do not want to refund the price I paid or even contribute to the costs of shipping the puppy back despite the fact that they were outright lied about the puppy's temperament even though I specifically asked about it before paying a deposit, because it was a deal maker/breaker for me (now the breeder asks why he should care about what I requested in regards to temperament?!). They started making up all these new fees that they would have to deduct from the original price, such as puppy keeping fees and food which were not mentioned at all, previously. And of course, the refund was only to be "discussed" after I've sent the puppy.
6. They are blaming me for a potential loss of profit (which is their reason for not wanting the puppy back), trying to make it out as though I ordered them to keep a puppy natural (not true - the puppy was 3 weeks old and still had a tail when I contacted them) and as such it will be impossible to sell her - yet another lie, as they kept two natural puppies, one of which was for a friend of theirs in Moscow to show in Western Europe. Not to mention that they have an all-natural Dobe themselves as do many other Russians, breeders or not.
7. In their last email, they basically told me I can do what I want with the puppy because it is not their problem since I've bought her outright with a full pedigree (and sending her back would only eat into their profits, according to them).
The truth is simple: they really just don't care about anything but money. There are plenty of better breeders than these people who you can seek out.
I recently bought a show prospect puppy from these people and the puppy is an absolute basket case with zero confidence and stability - it is unable to adjust to normal everyday life situations. I have had this puppy for 8 days and have tried to slowly introduce it to new people and environments, but it just shuts down and starts shivering or peeing at the slightest thing such as walking more than 50m/150ft away from the house. There has been absolutely no improvement since the day it arrived.
These breeders will lie through their teeth to make a profit and not stand by their word should something go wrong. This is in addition to their questionable practices such as raising the puppies in outdoor kennels with little to no socialization.
1. The breeder first told me that they never saw any problems with the puppy before. In fact, their description of her temperament was "confident and self-assured, but not dominant", but had I known otherwise, I would not have put down the deposit.
2. Then they admitted that she peed whenever she encountered something new, but that they thought it wasn't really a problem.
3. Then they said that some puppies not sold until they are 5 months old living in kennels can develop these sorts of behavioural issues (the puppy is 3 months old)
4. Now they are calling me a liar and saying that they have never seen temperament problems in any of the 500+ dogs they've bred and insinuated that I am not taking care of the puppy properly.
5. They do not want to refund the price I paid or even contribute to the costs of shipping the puppy back despite the fact that they were outright lied about the puppy's temperament even though I specifically asked about it before paying a deposit, because it was a deal maker/breaker for me (now the breeder asks why he should care about what I requested in regards to temperament?!). They started making up all these new fees that they would have to deduct from the original price, such as puppy keeping fees and food which were not mentioned at all, previously. And of course, the refund was only to be "discussed" after I've sent the puppy.
6. They are blaming me for a potential loss of profit (which is their reason for not wanting the puppy back), trying to make it out as though I ordered them to keep a puppy natural (not true - the puppy was 3 weeks old and still had a tail when I contacted them) and as such it will be impossible to sell her - yet another lie, as they kept two natural puppies, one of which was for a friend of theirs in Moscow to show in Western Europe. Not to mention that they have an all-natural Dobe themselves as do many other Russians, breeders or not.
7. In their last email, they basically told me I can do what I want with the puppy because it is not their problem since I've bought her outright with a full pedigree (and sending her back would only eat into their profits, according to them).
The truth is simple: they really just don't care about anything but money. There are plenty of better breeders than these people who you can seek out.