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Ragnar cut foot pad

Discussion in 'Doberman Health Issues and Questions' started by Ddski5, Jul 15, 2019.

  1. Ddski5

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    Ragnar sliced his paw pad about 3/4” deep on Friday. No vets were open because of impending Hurricane Barry, so no sutures were done.

    Called and tried to get into vet today but not able to. I think it is too late for sutures anyway because it’s past 24hours from initial injury.

    I have been keeping the wound clean and bandaged and I think it looks good. Problem is that there is no way I can keep him unweighted off that foot. I really really try but it is soo hard to do.

    I am concerned because I can’t get the sliced pieces of the pad to adhere together because when he weightbears on his foot I guess he reopens it back up.

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    Anybody have any experience with healing of the paw pad. Any tips on how to get an asshat bull to stay off his foot. Yes, I can put him in the crate but I can’t keep him from standing in the crate. I find it better to have him out because I can somewhat control him to lie down.

    Currently I clean it twice a day and keep it wrapped 24hrs.


    And @Tropicalbri's wont be back for 3-1/2 weeks???
     
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  2. Lizbeli

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    Gosh what a bummer... my last dog got cut deep on one of his toes. I read somewhere that if it is deep enough to where you can see the white tissue it needs stitches.

    Im surprised you didn’t have issues flushing it out. Kato had sand and grit inside and it was hell to clean even with a syringe. Can you use “butterfly stitches” to keep it closed or breath right strips? Then have a lot of padding to buffer him walking?

    It’ll heal much faster if you get stitches. Kato pulled one out but it took a few days and by then it was already fused. Might be worth bringing him in. They can flush the crap out of it and make sure it’s sterile.
     
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  3. Alwiretwister

    Alwiretwister New Member

    I am cruising through the forum and saw the title cut foot pad. Not sure i can help but i know that both our dogs have cut their pads multiple times. The last time that our female sliced hers it was pretty deep. I know that EB scrubbed it with a solution then dried it and put a spray on it. I think it was called veticyn or something like that then she wrapped it. It was still bleeding after 2 days so she did surgery on it but did not wrap it because she said that high humidity and and along with sweating on the pads that it could cause an infection if bandaged.
    When it was a minor cut on our male she cleaned it, dried it and put a surgical glue on it.
    I remember her saying something about it granular or granulated from the inside of wound. I am assuming that means it heals from the inside out.
    Could you clean it, dry it and use super glue on it and just wrap it during the day?
     
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  4. Alwiretwister

    Alwiretwister New Member

    Wanted to add that EB uses the water pic to clean dirty wounds.
     
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  5. Ravenbird

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    Yes, Vetericyn animal wound & skin care products are safe for all animals. , you can get it at Tractor Supply or other Pet/Livestock stores. I've used it on horses, chickens, dogs and myself. Great stuff. Light breathable wrap if it's still gaping open.
     
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  6. Ddski5

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    Thanks for the reply’s.

    I work at a hospital so I am pretty good with wound care and products.

    I am wondering what is the most beneficial way to promote the wound to heal since I can’t get him to use crutches to unweight the foot?

    I used superglue before but the cut still opens because of him putting weight through his foot. I tried butterfly stitches but it won’t hold the wound together. I googled healing time and it said it can take up to 21days. I guess I am to keep it clean and eventually in time it will heal.

    He is going nuts because I won’t let him run and jump.
     
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  7. My2Girls

    My2Girls Notable member

    @Ddski5 just incase you're not aware EB is @Tropicalbri's
     
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  8. My2Girls

    My2Girls Notable member

    We’ve had many paw injuries. One with stitches between the toes. We didn’t keep weight off. Just restricted activity.
     
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  9. Ddski5

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    @My2Girls

    Okay great, that’s what I am wondering. Just keep doing what I am doing with the wound care and it will eventually heal even though he is weight bearing through it. I was just worried because although I can keep him from running and jumping- there is no way to stop him from moving around.

    Thanks all.....

    @Alwiretwister
    Please keep us updated with your current mission.
     
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  10. Kaiser2016

    Kaiser2016 Active Member

    Wow, what a relief to hear that you can let him walk around at least. I can’t imagine keeping them down! He doesn’t sound very bothered by it if he keeps getting up either, so that’s a good sign. Do you know how he got cut?
     
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  11. Oh Little Oji

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    I don't envy you. It sounds not very fun to try to keep an active dog from being active. They get harder to live with when not given enough activity.

    I was under the impression that paw pads are an area of the body that heals quickly. I've dealt with a puncture wound, and maybe some significant cuts, but not anything as deep as you describe.

    Could you take his paw, bend it (you know, fold it up naturally at that lowest joint) and wrap it folded like that? I've not tried this, or heard of it tried, but it seems this would prevent him from walking on that leg! I would imagine you'd want to only keep it like this for so long before giving it a break – and during those breaks try to make those the times you encourage him to be settled and not up and about.

    What do we think of this idea, folks?
     
  12. Oh Little Oji

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    I learned back with that puncture wound (he stepped on the end of a metal coat hanger) to not wrap the paw too tightly. I apparently do so, and when I unwrapped it the paw was quite swollen. I had a little freak-out – not knowing if it was swollen due to infection, or due simply to being wrapped too tightly, but it returned to un-swollen state pretty quickly.
     
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  13. Kaiser2016

    Kaiser2016 Active Member

    Going to tag @Rits she will probably know a timeframe for healing. 21 days sounds long!
     
  14. Ddski5

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    I am tearing down a wooden shed and burning the wood. Somehow a piece of tin got loose from the roof and I did not see it. Wife and girls were out playing keep away with Ragnar and wouldn’t you know...he did a flying leap and landed on a sharp edge of that tin. He did not whelp or show pain but fricking blood was everywhere.

    It took me a while to get the bleeding under control. Imagine trying to subdue and hold a Doberman while applying pressure to a painful paw. He has come a long way this last year with obedience, that is for sure. Heart breaking thing about it is that I hope he did not associate the blood and pain with me holding him down applying pressure....you know how they give that sideways pitiful eye look with ears folded back??? Man, I felt just awful!!

    He is not limping, does not show any pain or favor when walking on it.

    He is not happy because he lives to run and jump and I have not allowed this since last Friday, day of injury. He almost looks depressed...
     
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  15. Rits

    Rits Admin Administrative Staff Moderator Hot Topics Subscriber

    I second the Vetricyn. You can typically find it at a local feed/farm store like Tractor Supply. I've used it on one of my chickens who had a big ol gash on her side from the spurs of an overzealous rooster mounting. Ripped skin, blood etc. Now a month and a half later theres a tiny blip of a scab and a well healed scar. We treated for about 2 weeks until it had a nice dry scab over.

    Vetricyn will sanitize and flush the wound out. Spray it 2-3x a day to keep everything clean, especially since this is the foot. With the location of the injury and how deep it sounds, 3 weeks sounds normal to me. You can't stop him from walking completely. It should heal from the inside out so don't freak out too much. Just keep it flushed. I added neopsorin to my above chicken regimen to help with the healing process.

    Don't blame yourself! I'm glad one of your girls didn't get hurt from the tin! These guys handle injuries like its nothing.
     
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  16. Diane Law

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    Hoss recently tore one of his rear toes pads ......not a deep puncture.....just tore back..........he did this from running real fast the coming to a quick stop on asphalt........took him to the vet day after this event ............she did not want to stich ...as typically the tissue falls off......advised that he would grow a new pad.......she disinfected the wound area ....gently trimmed off the dead tissue .......placed Hoss on anti inflammatory for 3 days ..........told me to keep him out of dirty areas for a week.......to give time for scab to develop .......so Hoss was coned to prevent him from licking ....and we went outside for bathroom breaks only for 3 days ...... with 2 weeks ...what was red flesh.....was pink..........now 3 months later .....its black and rough just like the original. Ours was just the pad peeled back.......didn't experience alot of blood.
     
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  17. LifeofRubie

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    Oh, man... I do not envy you! We haven't deal with a cut paw pad luckily but dang it stinks you couldn't get it stitched up.

    My HB got an axe to the foot and we didn't go in for stitches. Instead of 10-14 days of heal time, he had to wash and clean and wrap it for about a month. Really sucks!
     
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  18. Viemarangelrock

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    Oh boy! It sounds nasty :eek:

    It’s really hard to keep them calm and reduce their exercise when all they want to do is run a 100 miles an hour :sonic:

    This stuff, for us, has been a complete godsend. I know Bri’s clinic use it aswell. Brilliant for cuts and grazes ALL over the body.
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  19. Alwiretwister

    Alwiretwister New Member

    How is Ragnar doing today?
     
  20. Ddski5

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    Thanks for asking.

    He is doing fine. He literally acts like nothing is wrong- just deciding to wear an ace wrap on his foot for aesthetic and fashion reasons....only issue seems to be keeping him subdued. When I get home from work he is so jacked up ready to go.

    I believe to wound is doing okay. Keeping it clean and got some Manuka honey from the wound care specialist at work. They said the Manuka honey has outstanding healing qualities at the same time having natural antibacterial qualities.

    In this picture, the cut is on the front right portion of the big middle pad. His front of foot and his nails are where my thumb is.

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