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Ragnar’s protective nature

Discussion in 'Doberman Talk and Discussions' started by Ddski5, Apr 29, 2019.

  1. Ddski5

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    My wife has mentioned many times that Ragnar does not bark at strangers and her concern is that he is too aloof.

    I have told her that he is just a very confident Doberman that does not react to everybody, that he has a certain sense on who to be concerned with. The wife said she has no idea what that means.

    A good example that showed her what I meant happened this weekend when we were in Lafayette for the girls soccer.

    I had Ragnar in a down position on top of a table and I was sitting on a bench next to him watching a little league baseball game next to soccer game. Sitting to his right, I had my left arm up on shoulder while holding the leash. We were a ways off from Tristen’s game and I was enjoying a good baseball game- really nobody around but us as we were in the outfield arena, more or less in homerun territory.

    A man, wife and son came walking out of the baseball complex and he was just going at the little boy, his voice getting louder and louder at the boy. Then all of the sudden the man screamed in rage that literally made the young boy step backwards and he started crying.

    Ragnar stood up, jumped off the table and alerted hard on the man. His ears were vertical tight and hackles from nub to base of his skull. Ragnar was not happy and you could tell by his stacked posture. He did not bark or growl but he was mumbling or gurgling something. The man looked up at us, grabbed his boy and went the opposite direction. Ragnar watched him until his disappeared around the bleachers, the entire time mumbling some kind of jibberish.


    Pretty proud and shocked at how Ragnar handled that situation. I believe it is absolutely true that they can sense the mean, cruel people and will act accordingly if necessary.
     
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  2. Lizbeli

    Lizbeli Hot Topics Subscriber

    That is very impressive imo. It seems weird but I am a firm believer that dogs can sense someones intent too. Its like people give off a certain auora that dogs pick up on. I can only hope that my guy will grow into a confident dog who acts like Ragnar did.
    Did he stop when he jumped down or did you need to hold him back with the leash?

    I am used to rescuing reactive dogs that take ages to "fix." This is the first I have raised from a young age. So we will see :confused-alt:
     
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  3. Kaiser2016

    Kaiser2016 Active Member

    It’s such a proud moment when that happens! They can be such ding dongs inside the house, and then cool customers outside, and then snap to attention when they should. I get equally proud of how fierce he looks too. They really do have such a proud, prominent, threatening stance in alert mode. I just love it!

    So you said you were holding his leash while he was down, when he jumped up, what did you do? Did he use all the length of the leash?
     
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  4. Ddski5

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    I had the loop of the leash around my wrist because there were some little dogs running around and I just can’t predict Ragnar- sometimes he just watches them and sometimes he gets riled up and goes after them.

    The loud yell from the man was very startling. I mean we are sitting there on a calm, wonderful day watching kids have fun and all of sudden you hear this screaming rage directed at the little boy. I was very much taken by surprise, my focus immediately went to perceived danger; Ragnar stood up on the table, jumped off to the ground and went about 5’ out on a 6’ leash and stood there alerted on the man. I did nothing besides keep my eyes on the man, Ragnar stayed on him also. After the guy turned the other way, Ragnar came over to me and nose poked me in the crotch and then turned back and re-alerted to where the man was. I called him over and gave him a handful of high value treats and praised him.

    The older he gets, the more he is choosing to show me.
     
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  5. MyBuddy

    MyBuddy Moderator Hot Topics Subscriber

    Nice way of getting your attention.:spit: "Hey, dad." Bang. :rofl:

    But a proud moment, nevertheless! :)
     
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  6. Tropicalbri's

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    Just when you least expect it they suddenly show exactly what they were bred for and in that moment you are awestruck by the beauty of it all. It leaves you filled with emotions.
     
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  7. Atingles10

    Atingles10 Notable member

    This is one of the many reasons why I love this breed!

    Our boy doesn't bark outside of the house when we are out and about, even if other dogs are barking, but you best believe he is taking everything in. When our guys hears a child crying he is instantly focused on the crying, with ears straight up. He turns to us for answers and then focuses back on the crying.

    I'm sure Ragnar in his stance was intimidating enough, even without needing to bark!
     
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  8. Ddski5

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    I sent this to Ragnar’s breeder, her response:

    That is a great story. 40+ years and 11 generations later it is so rewarding to know as a Breeder that we’ve protected the breed with our selective program . No small feat. Must keep the look , size , and perfect Dobe temperament. Tell Dawn that the Doberman is a stealth dog. Not bred to be vocal. Shepards yes but not Dobes . When Herr Doberman started the breed he needed an escort to go on his tax collecting rounds. You wouldn’t want a barking dog to warn everyone that your coming. Just a partner in case things got out of hand. As an owner of Dobes I love that . Some breeds drive you crazy with their constant OCD barking like the herding dogs border collies , Shepard , collies. Of course that works when herding sheep etc Love the story
     
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  9. LifeofRubie

    LifeofRubie Active Member

    Rubie missed the memo on being a quiet, stealth dog :facepalm:

    What a good boy, Ragnar! Sad situation about that little boy, though. If that's what dad does in public, think about what he does in the home. Maybe that little boy will remember Ragnar and be inspired to get his own Dobe someday....
     
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  10. Curing

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    This is so awesome!
    I always tell people that a quiet dog usually means a well nerved and confident dog!

    My Shepherd is an alerter, she’s a good dog but has no discernment and her nerves are not the best, she can be reactive which is frustrating.
    Drac on the other hand is so quiet people often ask “does he ever bark” LOL. He’s very selective on what he barks at too, of course in the yard he likes getting a little frisky on patrol and shows off, but in public he’s hauntingly silent. Personally I think the calm silence is scarier then the loud barking and growling. It’s like “hmmm what are you going to do” :rofl:
     
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  11. Firestar Dobe

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    Candor goes into stalk mode, slowly creeping forward, hackles up and low grumbling when she has negative reactions. Dauntless freezes like a statue, muscles tensed and popping, with deep growling and hackles raised from head to nub!
     
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  12. Ddski5

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    @Curing

    Hauntingly Silent- that’s really good right there.
     
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  13. Viemarangelrock

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    Good boy, Ragnar! He’s obviously very socially aware and he sensed the guys emotions. Really good self-control on his behalf.

    You’ve got to feel for the little lad in this situation. Poor little mite :(

    ALWAYS trust their instinct!
     
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  14. jazzies mum

    jazzies mum Notable member

    It would be a brave, or stupid, soul to face down an alerted, grumbling doberman! I can see a mental picture of this all happening and you must be so proud!!! Exactly what we love them for. :) And I wonder if Mr bully had to go change his undies! :woot2:
     
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  15. JanS

    JanS DCF Owner Administrative Staff Moderator Hot Topics Subscriber

    Good job Ragnar! Our dogs are usually pretty well level headed but I certainly trust their instincts when they go on alert to someone.
    Back when Albert was still pretty young I had him out socializing and I stopped at work with him. He was friendly with everyone, except one guy that most people there didn't like and when that guy got down on his knees trying to make friends with him Albert backed off and clearly wanted nothing to do with him. The guy was being friendly but apparently Albert sensed that he wasn't really as nice as he was trying to act.
     
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  16. Vinnie's Mom

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    wow, that is so awesome to hear, thanks for that, it gives me hope!
     
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  17. Oh Little Oji

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    Things often get out of balance in breeding. Oji, with his working pedigree, is a massive barker. It's what he does best – that, and being highly alert. In the house and yard he is highly prone to finding something to bark at. :banghead:

    Out on a walk, though (I walk him at night almost every night in addition to the daytime), he actually is not quick to bark immediately at an unusual or suspicious stranger. He will, however, most certainly light it up in most vicious fashion if I give him any indication I am suspicious.
     
  18. Alwiretwister

    Alwiretwister New Member

    What a great dog. I told EB that the picture of your doberman in the calendar is my favorite.
     
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  19. Ddski5

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    @Alwiretwister

    Hahaha.....
    I just put it together. Thank you for the nice compliment.

    So glad you joined, we hear about you from time to time, I have always wondered....because you are a man of many marvels.

    Bri
    Military
    Deep South Florida
    Jeep
    Bri
    Crate engine
    Dobermans
    Birds
    Rotaan
    Bri

    On and on.
     
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  20. Alwiretwister

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    Thank you. When i first met EB over 40yrs ago she had her first doberman Rocky. Everyone on the island knew the dog because she never went anywhere without him and people would go to the other side of the street because they were terrified of him, (and her too) because she was being trained in martial arts.:shock: l was nervous on our first date because the dog came too. Then i met her parrot, i was more afraid of the bird than the dog. That crazy bird would give her dog commands and the dog responded to them because the bird sounded just like EB. She still has that mean ass bird and he is still mean as ever but she still handles him. I remember her telling me that the dog and bird were part of the deal if we got together. Obviously i agreed. Lol she introduced me to living with a doberman and i can say they are the only breed for us. Once you have one you will always have one. Are you working your boy? He can sure look intimidating. I think EB loves the training and working the dogs as much as they do because her energy level is the same as theirs.:D
     
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