The Dog Talk one on Novice I had already found and saved - great minds must search the same things! I'll go through theses and see what else I can find because it looks like lots of tidbits!!!Read a little through the novice portion and some tidbits; these are pretty helpful for one looking to compete in obedience! @Ravenbird I think you will quite like this especially.
It's interesting trying to decipher the codes. I never saw a worksheet like this. Here's my thoughts. Question marks are a wild guess on my part or don't know. Yes, the red appears to be NQs.Found a gem here!
@Rits or @obbanner or anyone else...
Screenshot of judges score sheet - I'm going to guess, but if you can, please confirm/correct or fill in what I don't know...
L F S C W = Lagging? Forging? S - ? Crowding? W?
Handler - Fast NA? BA? Slow ND? NB? PS? NS? PS? NS? - what do these mean?! I'll assume Fast & Slow refer to the change of pace and the initials refer to how it went? Is Head or Shoulder Motion like if you give a silent (secret) extra command?
Red Ink = NQ? on stand for exam & recall?
Front: - NF - No Front? PS -? NS-? Out ? T ?
Finish: - NF - No Finish? PS ? NS ?
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Yeah, I wish each article was dated. I saw a couple of things which are no longer done. But overall, tons of info and from the judges view on lots of it, so really good info!I have to check the dates of the articles because the AKC changes regulations every couple years
The other reason I was wondering how old some of it is, but again, much of it is timeless for learning what to expect as a competitor.I never saw a worksheet like this.
And it could be for the finish too!!! a dog that goes to finish, but doesn't sit?I just realized NS for Recall Front could be No Sit.
Wondering what would be difference between Lag and Slow... ?Heel and Figure 8 - Lag, Forge, Slow?, Crooked?, Wide
I would assume if you started to leave the dog and it moved to come with you, you'd repeat your stay command, so EC = points off?EC is Extra Command (I didn't know you could give an EC to stay),
I think slow would be the handler and lag would be the dog in heel. Or slow could be slow to sit. Yes EC is points off.Wondering what would be difference between Lag and Slow... ?
I read the regulations for Recall and the dog is required to sit close enough the handler can touch it's head, so I wonder if the T is for Touch.And it could be for the finish too!!! a dog that goes to finish, but doesn't sit?
The "T" was baffling me, but then I was looking at it, the shape of the "T" and maybe that represents a straight front? But then that would be repeating PS if it's Position, like you suggested...
Wondering what would be difference between Lag and Slow... ?
I would assume if you started to leave the dog and it moved to come with you, you'd repeat your stay command, so EC = points off?
I read them about a year ago, thinking I'd do this, but definitely need to read through again. Especially knowing when a EC might cost a couple of points but save the total points.Make sure to read the rules and regulations, as boring as it is. Its really helpful to know where theres room to take points, to possibly reinforce what you've trained vs letting the dog simply not do what you asked, and still Q over not knowing what to do in a situation should your dog not perform perfectly (which is the likely scenario in a trial!)
Section 11. Recall, Scoring:I know that's an extra command and I know a judge could see it, so in the rules I'll have to find if there are more points off for sitting crooked or more points off for EC.
It's so funny (not), that when I picked up Asha at the breeders, we were talking about training and she advised me not to start the flip finish because it's so hard to get them to be consistently straight. Did I listen? noooooo.Have you tried using a platform (only as wide as her) and raising your qualifications for finish position before rewarding? Ripley would front crooked... I had to work and work and work at it to get her to sit straight. She still occasionally does without the platform but maybe once in a blue moon. I am sure I will have to continue to reinforce correct position before we trial again. If she doesn't sit straight I just say "oops! try again!" and set her back up. If she still sits crooked, the platform comes back out to help her. I try not to ever let her fail more than twice. I will mix in sit at front and running between my legs to keep her guessing so she comes full force into me not knowing which I'll ask.
I'm curious if Asha would sit straight if she did an around finish vs flip finish? Ripley knows both too but I use around for obedience and flip we use in rally for left finish. Might be something worth trying!
Thanks for the tips. I don't have a platform, but I'll see what I can drum up.I agree with using a platform. I use it to teach straight sits when heeling by walking up to it and stopping so he has to sit on the platform and I use it for fronts.
I also found the platform useful for teaching SEND. Since AJ already knew how to sit on the platform, it wasn't at all hard to teach him to go across the ring and sit on the platform.
I think you're doing great! It appears the only thing would be minor crooked sits, but a judge won't ding you bad for them in Novice A because that's the type if thing that gets deductions in the upper B classes. It looks like you're on your way to at least a mid-190s score!@obbanner - sorry, I meant to tag you on my videos last week, you didn't comment so I'm assuming you didn't see them:
Going to attempt the CD title from AKC, here's our practice today - heeling off leash and recall. Forgive the giggling we are new at taking turns being the judge and making calls and forgetting to make the calls in time... 🙄 😄 I see what I'm pretty sure we'll get dinged for points, but open...doberman-chat.com
Would love your input, if you have the time.
Mine is 12" wide and 31" long. The long is good so I have flexibility when we stop on it when heeling and on the outrun, AJ can turn around on it. If I was going to make another, I would make it 11" because AJ can sit a bit crooked on the 12" platform.What are the approximate measurements? I have scraps of wood! I like that it's good and narrow but long enough.