Doberman Gang
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Watching the new Magnum P I and not even 10 minutes into the show they are pushing the no ecollar agenda. What a disappointment, can’t they just make a show and not have hidden agendas.
Magnum P. I.
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Hmm... I haven't watched it yet. In fact, I forgot it was on and didn't set it to record till half the show was over. I'll have to check to see if it actually started it from the beginning. That's pretty crappy though. Why do they even have to go there? Are they involved with PETA or something? LOL. 
LifeofRubie
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shame...
the Doberman rescue groups I follow have already posted lengthy pleas and warnings about people NOT going out and buying a pair of Dobermans and expecting them to be like what they see on the show. Shelters and rescues will be inundated with Dobes before we know it.
the Doberman rescue groups I follow have already posted lengthy pleas and warnings about people NOT going out and buying a pair of Dobermans and expecting them to be like what they see on the show. Shelters and rescues will be inundated with Dobes before we know it.
Doberman Gang
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In the show there is a girl who plays the role of Higgins, she walks in carrying two ecollars and jumps onto Magnum saying she had better not ever see the dogs with those collars on again. She says something about why he thought they needed to wear them. I believe he said for control and she reply’s tgat they are highly trained guard dogs and don’t need these collars and threatens to use them on him if she ever see the dogs wearing them again. Kind of a weird way for the opening of a new series to start in my opinion.
There’s several agendas brewing on that show, and I’ve only seen one episode.
That sucks. I didn’t watch it, forgot it was coming on.
Minionmama
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My first dobe was the best trained dog. I never used an e collar. This was almost 20 years ago so not even sure they existed, but it's definitely possible with our highly intelligent breed to train them well without
My current girl is ecollar trained and I don't care for it. I feel like she's too smart for it. She knows when it's not on and that's when she'll act out.
Good for you. Glad you were able to achieve what you wanted out of your Doberman.
I tried without and it was not happening. The ECollar helps me significantly with the type of Doberman I have and in the environment we are in.
Minionmama
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I don't have a problem with its use at all. I think used correctly it's a great training tool. I just don't think its something that is necessary for all dobes. My previous dobe was a mama pleaser. He wanted to do everything I asked because he lived for affection. I know not all dobes are that way. My current one surely isn't, I just don't think it really has helped with her.
Did not mean to sound like an asshat there....
Yes, it would be much easier if one were training a Doberman that is eager to please and/or be an owner with experience doing so. That definitely would help the cause for sure.
Attention, focus, distractions of people/dogs/cats, highways, cars, eating objects that should not be eaten, etc....
The ECollar allows both of us to have the confidence and the ability to do so much more than be tethered to a leash. He gets to run and be happy with an invisible leash.
And with this, I believe his bond and confidence is greater in me because I am not hollering at him all the time or jerking on a leash.
Could I have done it without the ECollar and been more patient and persistent? Maybe so, but would have been extremely difficult in the environment that we live in. My wife would have a bounty on his head by now.
Yes, it would be much easier if one were training a Doberman that is eager to please and/or be an owner with experience doing so. That definitely would help the cause for sure.
Attention, focus, distractions of people/dogs/cats, highways, cars, eating objects that should not be eaten, etc....
The ECollar allows both of us to have the confidence and the ability to do so much more than be tethered to a leash. He gets to run and be happy with an invisible leash.
And with this, I believe his bond and confidence is greater in me because I am not hollering at him all the time or jerking on a leash.
Could I have done it without the ECollar and been more patient and persistent? Maybe so, but would have been extremely difficult in the environment that we live in. My wife would have a bounty on his head by now.
jazzies mum
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I have just today received my ecollar via post. Have made sure it is one with plenty of graduation of intensity and will start giving Jazz several quick sessions a day to begin with. As far as I can see it is the only way to cement an automatic recall response in a young, independent minded Dobie/Ridgeback. She needs to feel my presence even if she is at a distance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There is also lot of controversy about prong collars here in Australia, but I have found it to be miles ahead of choker chains, and the so called gentle leader worked, but made Jazz soooooooooooo miserable. I think it's sad when the media has to get on the bandwagon, and it makes things quite uncomfortable when the general public gets loudly opinionated, through ignorance mostly, but still in your face! 
Kaiser2016
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So how do we know? Is it a male dog/female owner thing? I have long suspected that K will do MY bidding for affection, but not for my hb. I have never tested this either, but would be interesting to see if there was a correlation.
Kaiser2016
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Haha, yes, from 'zero to hero' as we say.
I agree. It isn’t for all.
*All being the key word.*
But it is for some a useful tool today.
First Dobie I ever met or interacted with was (gulp...
) about 40 years ago. No E collar existed then!
This was a dog that walked off leash, never broke heal, put her owners husband in a bark and hold in the kitchen one night, and again on another, because he F’n deserved it!
I’ve used the E collar here, to break Rocky of fence aggression.
Part of his deal was he couldn’t hear me, over his own loud mouth, lol.
The E-collar, on vibrate mode was just enough to break him from a$$hole mode to look up or over for a second.
Then there’s a pal of mine who had a deaf Rottie. E-collar with vibrate mode changed that dogs life.
It’s a tool. Used properly is a good tool.
You know how tools are
True words!It’s a tool. Used properly is a good tool.
You know how tools are
I remember years and years ago when we got our first Doberman. The breeder was a wonderful trainer. I never saw such recall on a dog! One day she was taking one of her dogs to a outdoor training or something and I was surprised that she had an e-collar on the dog. When I asked her about it she said it was an open area with streets and the e-collar was just a precaution. A squirrel or some other distraction and the dog could possibly run into the street. That was my first experience with the collar. And I understood right away that it was meant to be used as a backup. A precaution. A means of reaching out and touching your dog when a distraction could turn into an accident.
I watched my recording of Magnum PI and the first half hour that I missed in the recording was also the part about the e-collar. Darn it. I would have liked to have seen that. But just reading about it here is aggravating enough.
Minionmama
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I watched it too. I thought though that the ecollar conversation was meant that they were the kind of collars for an invisible fence. Because magnam was talking about being able to get to his door and Higgins was talking about the dogs being allowed to roam freely on the property. Just my take on it. I thought that it was a pretty good show. The dogs were gorgeous. I liked that they showed them not only protecting but playing together and comforting the child.
LifeofRubie
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It's been my experience that Rubie behaves differently for me because I do most of her training. Particularly recall training with the eCollar. She will come to me 99% of the time when she doesn't have it on... percentage goes down when Dog Dad calls her. I called her off a skunk without it on for hecks sake!
Moose's breeder actually said she's not a fan of prong collars but will use eCollars because they're for safety when dogs are out in the field. Their seatbelt!!
