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Is Roundup Safe For Dogs?

Discussion in 'Doberman Health and News Articles' started by strykerdobe, Oct 19, 2018.

  1. strykerdobe

    strykerdobe Hot Topics Subscriber

    But its not only Roundup! Don't use any fertilizers on your lawns especially where your dogs run, play and lay on the grass. There is a connection between fertilizers and Lymphoma.

    Is Roundup Safe For Dogs?



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    By: Dana Scott
    You might not be the type of person to spray your lawn and garden with Roundup weed killer … but that doesn’t mean your dog isn’t exposed to it.

    Roundup is everywhere. It’s in your dog’s food, in his water and on the ground. Since your dog is exposed to it daily, the million dollar question is … is Roundup safe for dogs?

    Research shows it’s not …

    What Is Roundup?
    Roundup is a herbicide. It’s available in a bottle for home application and it’s also widely used by farmers and by cities for weed control. Its primary ingredient is glyphosate. But it also contains surfactants to help the glyphosate cling to the plants.

    Glyphosate is one of the most widely used herbicides in the United States. It’s used in agriculture, on your neighbor’s lawns and gardens, in forestry and even for aquatic weed control.

    How Does Glyphosate Work?
    Glyphosate is a non-selective herbicide. This means it kills virtually all plants. It does this by stopping an enzyme pathway called the Shikimate pathway. Plants, algae, fungi and bacteria all use this metabolic route to manufacture essential amino acids such as tryptophan, tyrosine and phenylalanine.

    Dogs harbor up to a whopping 5,000% more glyphosate than humans.

    It also chelates or blocks the plant’s access to vital nutrients including calcium, magnesium, manganese, zinc, iron, copper, nickel, cobalt, boron, molybdenum, selenium and potassium.

    Glyphosate basically gives the plant AIDS … it takes away its nutrients and weakens its immune system.

    And it’s doing the same to your dog …

    How Likely Is Your Dog To Be Exposed To Roundup Or Glyphosate?
    Researchers in a study published in JAMA (Excretion of the Herbicide Glyphosate in Older Adults Between 1993 and 2016) tested 50 people in California between 1993-1996 and 2014-2016. They found that the number of people who tested positive for the presence of glyphosate increased … as did the amount of glyphosate.

    A lab at University California San Francisco reports that a whopping 93% of humans have glyphosate in their urine. The average sample tested at 3.096 parts per billion (PPB) with children having the highest levels. People living in the midwest and the west had the highest levels.

    But the amount of glyphosate in humans is much lower than it is in our pets …

    A pilot study by HRI Labs found that the glyphosate levels in dogs are much higher than in humans.

    Dogs harbor up to a whopping 5,000% more glyphosate than humans.

    So what does that mean for their health?

    Roundup And Lawn Chemicals Are Linked To Cancer In Dogs
    Roughly half of dogs today get cancer … and that percentage is skyrocketing. And glyphosate exposure could be a big part of this.

    A 6 year study from Tufts University School of Veterinary Medicine linked lawn chemicals to a 70% increase in the risk of lymphoma.

    A growing body of research shows Roundup is an endocrine disruptor, kills beneficial gut bacteria and damages DNA.

    Lawn chemicals have also been shown to increase the risk of bladder cancer in this 2013 study. The researchers in this study also found glyphosate in the urine of dogs living in homes that didn’t spray their lawns.


    Recently, the World Health Organization (WHO) classified glyphosate as a probable carcinogen. Cancer researchers unanimously voted for it. In 2017, California listed glyphosate as a known human carcinogen under its Proposition 65 law.

    Ironically, US Food and Drug Administration 2009-2015 Commissioner Margaret Hamberg tries to make us feel better about glyphosate’s link to cancer:

    “Sure, you could say that glyphosate causes cancer, of course it does … but only when swallowed in small amounts over a long period of time.”

    Yeah, Margaret … that only applies to EVERYBODY!

    Is Roundup Safe For Dogs?
    That would be a big old no.

    In the last 20 years, scientists have documented the health consequences of Roundup and glyphosate and they’ve found that people who are sick have higher levels of glyphosate than people who are healthy.

    A growing body of research shows Roundup is an endocrine disruptor, kills beneficial gut bacteria and damages DNA. The following health issues are all linked to glyphosate exposure:

    • Alzheimer’s Disease: glyphosate causes the same oxidative stress observed in Alzheimer patients
    • Autism: researchers believe the link may be gut dysbiosis
    • Birth Defects: glyphosate can block the vitamin A pathways that are crucial for normal development
    • Brain Cancer: the risk of brain cancer increases with exposure
    • Cancer: cancer rates are much higher in areas where Roundup is used
    • Heart Disease: a disruption of biosynthesis of amino acids is linked to heart disease
    • Liver Disease: even very low doses of Roundup show a disruption of liver cell function
    • Reproductive Problems: glyphosate can impact sperm production and decrease testosterone levels at puberty
    Roundup Is Everywhere
    Your dog isn’t just exposed to Roundup when he walks on treated grass. Dogs are exposed to glyphosate every day. It’s in their food. It’s in their air. It’s in their water. And it’s in their urine.

    With the introduction of genetically modified (GMO) foods, Roundup is now everywhere. It’s estimated we use 20 billion pounds of glyphosate globally … which is 15 times more than when Roundup Ready crops were introduced in 1996. Nearly 75% of all glyphosate used on crops has been used in the last 10 years.
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    Source: http://enveurope.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s12302-016-0070-0

    The first crops to become Roundup Ready were cotton, corn and soybeans. Since 1996, more and more foods are becoming genetically engineered. Here are the top 4:

    • Corn: 88% of corn grown in the US is GMO or Roundup Ready.
    • Soy: 93% of soy is GMO. Soy can appear on labels as lecithin, tocopherols (vitamin E supplement) oils and proteins.
    • Cottonseed: 94% is GMO and is used for vegetable oils
    • Alfalfa: Nearly all alfalfa in the US is GMO. Alfalfa is found in animal feeds and will accumulate in the tissues of the meats your dog eats.
    Apples have recently been genetically modified as well as potatoes, squash, rice, plums, flax, tomatoes, beets and more. Every year, more and more foods will be Roundup Ready. It’s estimated nearly 70% of processed human foods contain GMO ingredients … and percentages for pet foods are likely much higher.

    But glyphosate isn’t just in GMO foods …

    Roundup is often used on non GMO crops like wheat, barley, oats, beans, peas, flax, rye, buckwheat, millet, beets, potatoes and other crops before harvesting. Roundup is sprayed on these crops (called desiccating or pre-harvesting) to dry them and speed up harvesting.

    Even organic crops may be desiccated with Roundup. So even if your food label says Non-GMO or organic, there may still be glyphosate in it.

    Glyphosate researchers Anthony Samsel and Stephanie Seneff tested a small sample of pet foods for the presence of glyphosate. Every sample they tested contained glyphosate.

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    Source: http://notoxicliving.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Glyphosate-pathways-modern-diseases.pdf

    Roundup Safety: The Microbiome
    Remember that Shikimate pathway that glyphosate destroys?

    While your dog might not rely on the Shikimate pathway for his energy, the bacteria in his microbiome do. Your dog’s immune system is formed of trillions of little microorganisms that live on his skin, in his digestive tract and on his body. Collectively, these little communities of bacteria and bugs are called the microbiome. The microbiome is so critical to your dog’s health, it can even communicate with his brain.

    Glyphosate destroys these critical bacteria by disabling their Shikimate pathway. Intestinal bacteria produce your dog’s vitamins and short chain fatty acids. They crowd out harmful bacteria and viruses by competing for nutrients. Destroying these friendly bugs can cripple your dog’s immune system … and his health.

    And glyphosate can also directly impact your dog. Just as it binds to nutrients and minerals in plants, it will do the same in your dog.

    And the worst part is, glyphosate will accumulate in your dog’s kidneys and prevent him from detoxifying. And kidney disease is the second leading cause of death in dogs today.

    [RELATED] Grab our cheat sheet to learn how to prevent and detox your dog from glyphosate damage.

    So, is Roundup safe for dogs?

    You be the judge. But avoiding Roundup and glyphosate is impossible for any dog (or human). There are steps you can take to minimize the damage from Roundup … and my opinion is every pet owner should.

    Print out this Free Guide and share it with your dog loving friends. Help minimize the toxic damage from glyphosate.

    Dana Scott

    Dana Scott is the Founder and CEO of Dogs Naturally Magazine. She also breeds award winning Labrador Retrievers under the Fallriver prefix. Dana has been a raw feeding, natural rearing breeder since the 90's and is a sought after speaker and outspoken advocate for natural health care for dogs and people. Dana works tirelessly to educate pet owners so they can influence veterinary medicine and change current vaccine, food and preventive health practices. Visit Dana's Labradors at Fallriver Labs
     
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  2. JanS

    JanS DCF Owner Administrative Staff Moderator Hot Topics Subscriber

    I don't know why Roundup and some of those other harsh ones haven't been removed from the market a long time ago. So bad...
     
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  3. Oh Little Oji

    Oh Little Oji Formerly Tad Hot Topics Subscriber $ Forum Donor $

    We have a veggie garden next to our house and we use zero chemicals on it. We get mostly organic soil, amendments, and the fertilizer we use is organic.

    We had a young woman move in to the house next door, and her driveway runs alongside our garden. As SO many people around here do, she hired a service of yahoos to mow her lawn all summer. One day, I see the head guy walking along with a tank on his back and spraying the driveway cracks beside our garden. When he was putting his stuff away, I called from my porch and asked what he had sprayed. "Oh, just Roundup" he replied.

    I was nice to the guy, because if I ticked him off or offended him too much, all he would have to do in the future is give our veggie plants a few free squirts to get back at us.
     
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  4. Viemarangelrock

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    Poison :mad:
     
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  5. JanS

    JanS DCF Owner Administrative Staff Moderator Hot Topics Subscriber

    Just Roundup he says... :banghead: I would have been livid but I guess when you live in town there isn't much you can do either.

    Kind of like when I saw them spraying something on the grass at the airport this summer. I asked them what it was and they said some sort of fertilizer, which is just great since fertilizer will set off our alarms and people walk through that grass all the time.
     
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  6. alektron333

    alektron333 Novitiate

    It is a poison. My Pomeranian girl died after eating some weeds spayed with it. There was no post about someone sprayed it, I found out later that it was just day before she ate it. I checked poison control website and there they say that it could have mild effect (death is mild?) and if dog is poisoned it’s just need supportive therapy. I’m so mad that this kind of stuff is considered safe to use by landscapers.
     
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  7. strykerdobe

    strykerdobe Hot Topics Subscriber

    Some reading on connection of Lawn Pesticides and Lymphoma.

    Lawn Pesticides and Canine Lymphoma | Whole Dog Journal

    https://www.whole-dog-journal.com/issues/15_4/features/Canine...
    A study presented in the January 2012 issue of the journal Environmental Research concluded that exposure to professionally applied lawn pesticides was associated with a significantly (70 percent) higher risk of canine malignant lymphoma (CML). It’s a broad conclusion and light on specifics

    Studies Have Linked Lawn Pesticides with Canine Malignant Lymphoma

    A study reveals a link between canine malignant lymphoma and professionally applied lawn pesticides.
    By Barbara Dobbins

    [Updated October 19, 2017]

    It’s a ton of fun to see an athletic, healthy dog sprinting across a sprawling lawn of thick green grass – but could this practice be dangerous to the dog’s health? A study presented in the January 2012 issue of the journal Environmental Research concluded that exposure to professionally applied lawn pesticides was associated with a significantly (70 percent) higher risk of canine malignant lymphoma (CML).



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    It’s a broad conclusion and light on specifics. The case-control study, conducted between January 2000 and December 2006 at the Foster Hospital for Small Animals at Tufts University’s Cummings School of Veterinary Medicine, was structured around a 10-page questionnaire that was mailed to dog owners who were having their pets treated at the Foster Hospital; the resulting data came from the owners of 266 dogs with confirmed cases of CML and 478 dogs in two control groups (non-CML cases).

    The questionnaire was not included in the article; a summary stated that it covered a wide variety of data considerations, including breed, weight, medical history, and the types of chemicals used in the home. The characteristics of the CML cases did not vary much from the controls, other than in the weight category (the CML dogs tended to weigh more than 50 pounds). Exposure to types of flea and tick products and frequency of administration was similar among the groups, as was overall exposure to lawn care products.

    What did show cause for concern was that the CML cases were more likely to live in homes that reported professionally applied pesticides and herbicides, though the results were only marginally significant for the herbicides. Exposure to other types of professionally applied lawn care products was not associated with increased risk. There was an increased risk, however, for dogs who live in homes where owners applied lawn-care products containing insect growth regulators – substances that inhibit the development of insect eggs and larvae.

    One disappointment: specific lawn care chemicals or insect-growth regulators were not identified. Instead, the umbrella categories of herbicide, pesticide, insect growth regulators, fungicide, rodenticide, and fertilizer were used. It could be that some of these chemicals are already designated as known carcinogenics. The article notes that studies evaluating frequency of exposure and exposure dose are needed; thus it appears that the researchers did not determine which chemicals the dogs were exposed to, in what quantities, or for how long.

    Also disappointing was the fact that genetic factors were apparently not considered as part of the study. Three-fourths of the CML dogs were classified as purebred, as was the control group. The incidence rate of CML is not the same for all breeds; increased risk has been reported for several breeds including Basset Hounds, Boxers, Airedales, Golden Retrievers, Saint Bernards, Bulldogs, Bullmastiffs, and Scottish Terriers. This predisposition could indicate an inherited characteristic.

    Like the canary in the mineshaft, dogs can serve as sentinels for human disease because they are our close companions and are subjected to many of the same environmental influences. Canine cancers have the same biology and behavior as human cancers, and in some cases have identical histology and response rates to treatment. The goal of this study was to identify risk factors for CML from exposure to environmental chemicals in an effort to provide insight to risk factors for humans in developing non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma.

    Keep in mind that exposure to lawn care products is different for canines than it is for humans. People can know if a lawn has been recently treated with chemicals and thus avoid it and take precautions when handling such chemicals. Our pets have no such option; their uncovered and unprotected bodies come in direct contact with the environment. They see an enticing outdoor carpet, perfect for rolling around on, running across, playing fetch and wrestling with playmates on, and even ingesting. Dogs have their mouths on everything: themselves (grooming), their playmates, their toys and sticks lying in the grass, and yes, the grass itself. And those mouths can be the conduit from external to internal exposure.

    Though more study is needed, the preliminary findings of this study suggest that you can reduce your dog’s risk through the following:

    -Don’t use pesticides on your own lawns, or allow lawn-service providers to use them on your property.

    -Don’t use lawn care products that contain insect growth regulators.

    -Prevent your dog from walking on (or rolling on, eating, etc.) any lawns, unless you are able to determine that absolutely no pesticides are used to maintain them. (Most municipalities are required to make their chemical lawn-care regimens available to the public. It says something about these chemicals that their use is prohibited on most public school grounds.)

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    These below you can do other reading.

    Green Lawn Pesticides and Canine Malignant Lymphoma
    https://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2012/07...
    However, a 6-year study puts the increased risk of canine malignant lymphoma (CML) at 70 percent for certain dogs. Lawn pesticides applied professionally, and lawn care products containing chemical insect growth regulators are the primary culprits, according to the study.


    Lawn Chemicals And Cancer In Dogs
    https://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/lawn-chemicals-and-cancer-in...
    Research shows a link between lawn chemicals and cancer in dogs. Lawn Chemicals And Cancer: The Study In the study, researchers identified 263 dogs with biopsy-confirmed canine malignant lymphoma (CML), 240 dogs with benign tumors, and 230 dogs undergoing surgeries unrelated to cancer.


    MALIGNANT LYMPHOMA IN THE CANINE: LINK TO PESTICIDES
    www.thedogplace.org/HEALTH/malignant-lymphoma-link-to-pesticides...
    Malignant Lymphoma In The Canine (CML) Barbara J. Andrews, AKC Master Breeder, SAAB Member. We all take pride in our well tended lawns but if you also love your dog read this 2017 news about lawn treatments, the ever-increasing array of pesticides and the ever-rising lymphoma cancer rate in …
     
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  8. GennyB

    GennyB Moderator Hot Topics Subscriber

    Roundup........*sigh*. Monsanto's world headquarters is here making everything Monsanto VERY controversial.
    My opinion is Monsanto owns a huge part of this country. They've got their greedy little fingers in so many pots, including both political parties that were all kinds of groups banning together to try to stop them. Now they sold out to Bayer. Both companies were huge before the buyout. Now Bayer is beyond gigantic with their hands deep in the pockets of politicians. Perfect example of why despise big business and government.
     
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  9. Gelcoater

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    I’m not sure a lot of people know this.
    At one time both Donald Rumsfeld (R) and HRC (queen D ) were both in bed with Monsanto.
    Creatures of the swamp;) :D
     
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  10. strykerdobe

    strykerdobe Hot Topics Subscriber

    Newest Research on "Roundup"
    THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION'S INTERNATIONAL AGENCY FOR RESEARCH ON CANCER (IARC)
    "For the herbicide glyphosate, there was limited evidence of carcinogenicity in humans for non-Hodgkin lymphoma. The evidence in humans is from studies of exposures, mostly agricultural, in the USA, Canada, and Sweden published since 2001. In addition, there is convincing evidence that glyphosate also can cause cancer in laboratory animals."

    IT DOESN'T GO AWAY
    The public has repeatedly been assured that glyphosate at current exposure levels is safe and has also been told that the chemical does not accumulate in soil. But actual science says otherwise, and has proven that glyphosate actually accumulates in the soil as well as in the leaves of plants, grains and fruit

    "Glyphosate residues cannot be removed by washing and they are not broken down by cooking," concludes the groundbreaking report. "Presence of glyphosate in urine and its accumulation in animal tissues is alarming even at low concentrations."

    GMO food that is Roundup Ready retains the glyphosate which then
    accumulates in the tissues of those who eat those foods. Wheat which is not GMO is routinely sprayed at harvest with Roundup to kill and dry the field. The glyphosate deposited in the wheat kernel is why so many people react to wheat products in the USA. They do not spray the wheat with roundup in countries like Italy and France.

    Here's the rub. When cows, dogs, cats, and we humans eat foods with glyphosate we also retain glyphosate in our bodies.

    A team of researchers from both Germany and Egypt, publishing their findings in the Journal of Environmental & Analytical Toxicology, discovered that animals fed GM feed had much higher levels of glyphosate in their urine and organs than animals fed non-GM or organic feed.
    Click Below to open Dr. Khalsa's Article
    Are We Cancer Pimps

    Are We Becoming Cancer Pimps?
     
  11. Tropicalbri's

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    That is one chemical I will NOT use!!
    I use an aquatic weed killer. It is a broad leaf desiccant and not systemic. Treated areas where livestock graze should be off limits for 24hrs before allowing them back out to graze.
    Since it is not systemic, it does not embed itself to seeds being used in food production like the glyphosate product does.
    Even though the chemical is IMO safer in residential and commercial areas, I still had to attend classes on its use, take a test and get certified and a license by EPA to use it.
    It’s toxicity to bees, insects, birds, fish, animals is negligible if used properly
    and precautions taken. It works very well on algae and weeds, plus it’s effective in rain.

    NOTE: It ain’t cheap either. Lol It runs about $275. for 2.5 gallons.
     
  12. GennyB

    GennyB Moderator Hot Topics Subscriber



    I think people would be shocked at the exposure they encounter every single day. Roundup is EVERYWHERE. Now that the patent has expired it i available under new brand names making it's use even bigger. Glyphosate is the #1 herbicide because it will kill just about anything, it's cheap, quick and readily available. That means it's on the playground where children play at the park, all the places that look so beautifully (weed free) landscaped and the food we eat. Can't forget the water, there are aquatic herbicides that contain glyphosate used in water every single day.
    People are their own worst enemies. Makes me laugh when someone says humans are the 'smart' species.
     
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  13. Tropicalbri's

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    There are very few aquatic herbicides that do not contain glyphosates but they are available. Most farmers or I should say agriculture entities that will use both since they work differently in the selective weeding and killing of crops in order to disc and plant new crops. Timing of use is important in the stage of plant growth for herbicides to be effective. Unfortunately Roundup has been the choice by most agricultural companies. Those that raise hops for beer do no use any product containing glyphosate as it has been proven that glyphosates remain in the hops and is emphasized when producing beer.

    I find it interesting that I had to go through training to use a chemical that does not contain glyphosates but those that do are readily available to JQP.

    In speaking with an extermination company, I was told that herbicides pose a far greater risk and are more toxic to humans and animals than pesticides.
     
  14. GennyB

    GennyB Moderator Hot Topics Subscriber



    We have to be audited by 2 different agencies. :rolleyes: We also have to keep logs on chemicals we don't even use. No log, audit failed. A failure means we're out of business. Yet Joe Blow can buy chemicals at the local box store and pour them all over the place and no questions asked. :confused-alt:
     
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  15. Tropicalbri's

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    Same here Genny. I have to have an MSDS booklet that has sheets for every single thing I use, right down to the 2 stroke oil, bar lube, gasoline, every fertilizer and pesticides I use, first aid items, wasp sprays, WD40, plumbers glue and pvc cleaner. Each item has to be labeled with a number that corresponds with the MSDS book I have.

    I am required to keep records of how much fertilizer I use on each property, the address of property and dates, how much herbicides and pesticides I use on each property.
    They require me to have a license to use fertilizers. It was only a 12 hr class but it is required by Monroe County. All licenses must be visible and available if code enforcement stops me asking for them.

    All my licenses have to be renewed every 3 yrs. It is a pain in the butt however, I understand the reasoning behind it.

    It’s just frustrating to see all these unlicensed people doing whatever they want and being reckless with it and they don’t have the strict guidelines to follow because they don’t bother to get a license or insurance which Monroe County requires a 3M liability insurance with any business.

    Code and EPA are the only ones that audit my records and they can do it anytime without notice.

    I have only had one warning citation and that was for removing a tree without a permit. A nosy neighbor with an obviously boring life called code enforcement on me as I was taking the tree down. :mad:
     
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  16. GennyB

    GennyB Moderator Hot Topics Subscriber



    in our case, we have that list plus we have to write down the temperature and wind speed. Missouri is not too bad to deal with but we are licensed in Illinois also. Illinois is a real PITA. First the class is annual and they won't come to us for the audit, I have to drive to Springfield Il with all the paperwork. It's about a 2 hour drive so it pretty much takes all day. I hate those days because it's in January and it never seems to fail to snow.
     
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  17. Tropicalbri's

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    Oh wow, that really sucks!! I don’t have to do any of that.
    I couldn’t imagine having to do temps and wind speed, then driving that far to be audited.
    Temps are not a major criteria here but wind speeds are. I always worry about damage from drifts when using chemicals so winds do determine if I can use treatments or not but we are not required to record the wind speeds.

    It is due to you working around high agricultural areas and the rivers?
     

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