IPO, PSA, RING, Ect. Notes Thread

Silent Dobe

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I thought of starting a thread of personal notes that we have taken from our trainers and comrades in our sports we love so much. The ect. can also mean Agility, OB comp, personal protection, anything. Hell, Waine learned some jumping techniques for dogs (ahem my dummy dummy lol) by watching horse trainers. Here's one of mine from decoy camp:



I started talking to one of the decoys regularly. Ben, if you remember DG, lol the short one in the too-big green suit with a head cold hahahaha. Anyway, he's been helping me out with tracking and obedience and such and I thought I'd jot some things down here.

For tracking:

One genius thing was...change the bait. I said I've done it a million times. It doesn't matter. He says, no, were they all things they get though? I thought for a second, well, yes it was. Raw meat, cheese, treats, kibble, ect. So...I made them treats instead. Simple, very quick and easy to make and a fresh new batch every track.

Second so far was...variable surface track. I'm like, right, yeah, I have no idea how to go about that. He merely asked me why? Just walk and leave bait like you always do.

Silence: He was confused when he got to the gravel road. He didn't know that also could be a tracking surface. Once I coaxed him onto the surface he realized there was scent there and took off!

Jerry: Well...was a typical GSD that makes you just sick to your stomach as a Dobe owner and just plowed on through it like there was no surface change....

Obedience is my playground...as you can see on the field hahahaha!! Joking of course!
 
I'll also stick this tread. Always nice to have another point of view :). I did BH, IPO, all kinds of obiedience exams and just finished my Royal Dutch Police Dog exam with my malinios. I will start tracking with our Dobermann.
 

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At UDC Natls from Al G on tracking - he teaches the long down on the track. That has helped me with two things - the dog popping up when you stand up to show the article and has helped teach to relax at article as they are good. It makes the articles valuable to the dog.

Do not endulge your dog in self gratification - that is thinking like a pet person - WAINE Da Wiz Stunna

Each dog is different and you need an arsenal of tricks to motivate and train dogs. (me)

About the time you think you have it, along comes a dog with a different perspective.......you must be able to adapt and rise to the occassion - never blame the dog it is always a people problem. (me)
 
Haven't seen a new Silence video in quite some time.How about giving us fans a fix?;):cool:
 
This thread has been dead for awhile so I will add to it with my recent guidance in sport,


Train in pictures. Break the task down and NEVER train the pattern (heeling pattern for sports). This helps in anticipation and the dog has to make an effort each and every time to understand what you want. Move in ways that you wouldn't at a trial (like heeling backwards with your dog's bottom straight behind, no winging out) and it will be "cake" at the trial when you actually have to do the BORING heeling pattern! Now your dog is on YOU, not the distractions, because even though it's easy now in trial, he thinks you will do something CRAZY if he doesn't watch you!
 
This thread has been dead for awhile so I will add to it with my recent guidance in sport,


Train in pictures. Break the task down and NEVER train the pattern (heeling pattern for sports). This helps in anticipation and the dog has to make an effort each and every time to understand what you want. Move in ways that you wouldn't at a trial (like heeling backwards with your dog's bottom straight behind, no winging out) and it will be "cake" at the trial when you actually have to do the BORING heeling pattern! Now your dog is on YOU, not the distractions, because even though it's easy now in trial, he thinks you will do something CRAZY if he doesn't watch you!
Welcome back!!!
Hope we see more of you and your crew around here.
 
All training is good and has value for both you and the dog. Do not be afraid because it is not perfect. It gets better with practice. I agree with Jenn variety is the spice of life and dogs get bored just as we do. Even if you don't do a particular activity does not mean you cant throw some of it into your training routine or that you might learn something from another trainer.. You never know when a technique learned in a different venue might help you fix a problem you are having. Remember keep it light and fun.
 
All training is good and has value for both you and the dog. Do not be afraid because it is not perfect. It gets better with practice. I agree with Jenn variety is the spice of life and dogs get bored just as we do. Even if you don't do a particular activity does not mean you cant throw some of it into your training routine or that you might learn something from another trainer.. You never know when a technique learned in a different venue might help you fix a problem you are having. Remember keep it light and fun.

Exactly! Even though I am not actively participating in IPO, I am still tracking and doing some things that I have learned in my time in IPO. This is just an example. Another would be if you do competitive obedience, do agility exercises to increase awareness! Even if you aren't an agility buff you can see the worth in your dog using his or her body in a different fun way.
 
Old, old thread, great notes on training!
What suggestions would you guys give on teaching a dog obedience by yourself?? What about protection and tracking. I am aware from watching Shylah that she has an excellent nose, but I have no idea how to train tracking. Of course, for protection I have no one to be decoy for me. :( I hope that I will have a chance after leaving home to actual fulfill this dream of training a dog in IGP.
 
What suggestions would you guys give on teaching a dog obedience by yourself?? What about protection and tracking. I am aware from watching Shylah that she has an excellent nose, but I have no idea how to train tracking. Of course, for protection I have no one to be decoy for me.
Go to You tube and watch BH routines/trials so you know what is expected in obedience. There are lots of online lessons/DVDs that can be helpful. Leerburg website has lots of selection from raising puppies to obedience to tracking & bite work. Others that come to mind is Canemo Marko and Dave Kroyer. I've spent hours watching & learning, but nothing will take the place of a good trainer working with you & your dog together. For protection "practice", play lots of tug & interactive games to learn how your dog uses her prey drive and to develop a playing bond with her as a puppy. There is a reason for the BH test in that you must have good control and obedience as you teach bite work. Tracking teaches the dog self discipline, going slow and being patient. Someone once called IGP similar to Martial Arts - you learn the steps to self defense but all will agree that self discipline and patience is the key.
 
Go to You tube and watch BH routines/trials so you know what is expected in obedience. There are lots of online lessons/DVDs that can be helpful. Leerburg website has lots of selection from raising puppies to obedience to tracking & bite work. Others that come to mind is Canemo Marko and Dave Kroyer. I've spent hours watching & learning, but nothing will take the place of a good trainer working with you & your dog together. For protection "practice", play lots of tug & interactive games to learn how your dog uses her prey drive and to develop a playing bond with her as a puppy. There is a reason for the BH test in that you must have good control and obedience as you teach bite work. Tracking teaches the dog self discipline, going slow and being patient. Someone once called IGP similar to Martial Arts - you learn the steps to self defense but all will agree that self discipline and patience is the key.
Thank you! Actually, I do watch Leerburg, Schutzhund Kevin, and several others. In fact, I put my brother through an hour and ten minute lecture on French Ring the other day. :D I have been persuading my parents that this is a good idea, but they are against the idea of an 'attack' dog as they put it. Oh well! We'll see what happens before they get back home. My brother doesn't really want to get involved...so I'm alone in this as usual. You know what really annoys me?! I was interested in dog training by 7, and definitely into protection work at 11...but it took me until now to really figure out how training works. I went from bribing to forcing...then I figured out that there was an in between zone...so annoying. I've wasted a lot of time. I feel like I have been stumbling through a dark tunnel because I had no guidance.
 
Thank you! Actually, I do watch Leerburg, Schutzhund Kevin, and several others. In fact, I put my brother through an hour and ten minute lecture on French Ring the other day. :D I have been persuading my parents that this is a good idea, but they are against the idea of an 'attack' dog as they put it. Oh well! We'll see what happens before they get back home. My brother doesn't really want to get involved...so I'm alone in this as usual. You know what really annoys me?! I was interested in dog training by 7, and definitely into protection work at 11...but it took me until now to really figure out how training works. I went from bribing to forcing...then I figured out that there was an in between zone...so annoying. I've wasted a lot of time. I feel like I have been stumbling through a dark tunnel because I had no guidance.
Tell your parents there is a huge difference between an attack or protection dog snd a dog that died bite sports. Bite sports dogs have the highest level of obedience and are the most confident and stable dogs. It is actually better to have one trained like this than just a pet trained dog.
 
Tell your parents there is a huge difference between an attack or protection dog snd a dog that died bite sports. Bite sports dogs have the highest level of obedience and are the most confident and stable dogs. It is actually better to have one trained like this than just a pet trained dog.
Oh, I told them that...they didn't seem convinced. Anyway, they are temporarily satisfied because I said I was concentrating on obedience right now. As for the protection work...I still have nobody to help me. There are always helpful things like having strangers around. So, I think Shylah was getting the idea of bark and hold, but now we are heading into total lockdown. :eek: I fear I'm going to lose all her learning on that.
 
Anyway, lockdown rules are basically ignored here...so that hasn't stopped people from coming around.
 

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