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Inverted vulva and the treatment

Discussion in 'Doberman Health Issues and Questions' started by JanS, Sep 6, 2009.

  1. Brienna

    Brienna Hot Topics Subscriber

    I can't speak on the invertedness (is that even a word lol) but I will say that it's very normal for them to not go back down to the size they were preheat. That's why it helps with the inverted problem. Rogue is slightly inverted and you can't even see her vulva from behind.

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  2. mandym

    mandym Notable member

    This is what she looks like now. She stopped bleeding almost a month ago 2014-04-30 08.05.08.jpg
  3. Brienna

    Brienna Hot Topics Subscriber

    It doesn't look terribly abnormal to me but I'm used to small breeds and all post-heat doberman pics seem on the large side to me lol. Hopefully JanS or someone else that is more of an expert than me will chime in.
  4. JanS

    JanS DCF Owner Administrative Staff Moderator Hot Topics Subscriber

    In your before pic I did see a bit of a hood there and it will most definitely cause the UTI's. Poor Della was getting them quite often before her heat, but she's had no problems after the fact. Another thing she did was squatting so close to the ground that it could cause dirt and bacteria to get trapped. It did help to take a baby wipe and clean her up after she went so it didn't get trapped in the folds.

    It does take a while for the swelling to go down after a heat and I'd say your after pic is pretty normal.
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  5. WYOgirl

    WYOgirl Hot Topics Subscriber

    My Tia had an inverted vulva. She didn't seem to have troubles until she was around 5. But then she had chronic UTI's and the skin fold was always infected. She had an episiotomy and that was great until she was around 9 or 10. She started having skin infections in the area as well, though it never inverted as much as it was initially so she didn't have UTI's. She did struggle with incontinence--mostly at night--starting around 6 years old. I have no idea if the two things were related.

    Note that Tia was not a Dobe, but I would imagine an inverted vulva presents the same regardless of breed.
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  6. Brienna

    Brienna Hot Topics Subscriber

    Rogue has been through her first heat now and it's like she swelled up inside the little pocket she's got going on down there and it never popped out. Now that the swelling as gone down, her vulva is at least peeking out a bit but it still looks quite recessed to me. Here are a couple doggy porn pics, lol. Both while standing, one from directly behind, the other from an angle underneath.

    Behind.jpg Under.jpg
  7. JanS

    JanS DCF Owner Administrative Staff Moderator Hot Topics Subscriber

    It was definitely inverted but she looks much better now.
  8. Brienna

    Brienna Hot Topics Subscriber

    Her first heat seemed pretty mild. Do you think a second one could help even more? I did call and make an appointment to take rogue to the vet so they could look at it but the doctor I talked to on the phone actually said she'd never heard of a heat correcting a recessed vulva! Then she proceeded to say that I could bring her in but they would probably encourage going ahead and getting her spayed. I made sure my appointment was with a different doctor at the facility but I have a feeling it may be a waste of time and money. I wish I could find a good vet around here :groan:
  9. JanS

    JanS DCF Owner Administrative Staff Moderator Hot Topics Subscriber

    I don't think a second heat would improve it much more than the first did, so if you want to have her done I'd go ahead. If you got back to page one here and follow Cinneas link she had a severe case and needed surgery. OT, but I just heard she passed away from another problem. :(
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  10. Brienna

    Brienna Hot Topics Subscriber

    The vet I ended up seeing seemed familiar with recessed/inverted vulvas. Certainly more so than the first lady I talked to! She said that Rogue was VERY hooded and that she was probably the worst case she had seen (even though I don't think she's as bad as Cinnia was). The vet agreed that the second heat wouldn't help much if at all. She also said that they hadn't had much luck with doing the corrective surgery at their facility but did recommend another place if it came to that. But, she said that as long as Rogue didn't seem affected by it then she thought it was best to not worry about it unless it became an issue. She also said, with rogue's situation, they would do a sterile urine sample during the spay surgery if I chose to have it done there just to be sure she didn't have an infection now.

    Overall, she said Rogue looked great and she weighed in at 70lbs.
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