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Florida Passes Ban on Greyhound Racing

Discussion in 'Breed Specific Legislation' started by LifeofRubie, Nov 7, 2018.

  1. LifeofRubie

    LifeofRubie Active Member

    Anyone who lives in Florida close to this? From what I can gather, greyhound racing will be phased out by Dec 31 2020 and could eventually include other time events such as coursing and agility now that the law is passed?

    Is this a good thing? Are they suffering in cruel conditions? I've read all sorts of statistics but it sounds like retired greyhounds have a very good likelihood of being adopted so it doesn't seem like a shelter overflow issue.

    I haven't really been following it too closely but my social media was blowing up this morning with people pretty pissed about it and what the overreaching affects of passing it could be for other dogs spots.

    I'm really just looking for people's perspective and how it's been presented to voters.

     
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  2. Gelcoater

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    Well?
    If this passed is horse racing next?
    Slippery slope.
     
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  3. LifeofRubie

    LifeofRubie Active Member

    Agreed and I think that's what animal sports enthusiasts are worried about. This was like the 'foot in the door' to lead to a lot of other potential restrictions.
     
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  4. Tropicalbri's

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    This bill is a gateway for the idiot PETA and AR people to eventually outlaw EVERY sport that animals participate in and to eventually (their end goal) not allow people to own pets.
    I voted for this bill NOT to pass. 99% of retired racing greyhounds are adopted into loving homes.
    People did not research what this bill actually means. The AR are coming for you and your pets, it’s just a matter of time. People vote with their hearts and not their educated brain!

    It’s the same with Amendment 6.:mad:
     
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  5. Rits

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    Worried this will affect other timed events in any dog sports.

    People voted with emotions. No research. A greyhound wont race and win if its kept in crap condition. I've also heard most are successfully adopted. So whats the issue...
     
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  6. Viemarangelrock

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    A dark day for greyhounds :( The one thing that makes their blood sing :(

    PETA’s end goal is to effectively end pet ownership, and people are following blindly.
     
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  7. LifeofRubie

    LifeofRubie Active Member

    The AKC issued a statement that this would in NO WAY affect ANY of their events planned for Florida and the response was... skepticism, not surprisingly.
     
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  8. Tropicalbri's

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    The only AR people down here in the Keys (as a rule of observation) are the tourists that come down and make trouble for those of us that work our dogs. I have had them tell me I was cruel to MAKE my dog run fast while biking. I just want to jack slap them. My usual response is “if you were watching then perhaps you might have noticed I am not even pedaling the bike, nor do I have a riding crop in my hand!”
    Go home tourists, I hear the cold calling for you! Your opinions are not needed down here.

    I wonder if all these AR people are vegans, because if not, they should be required to be if they are going to spout their crap!!
    I once had someone claim they were vegan as they were eating a vegetable and cheese egg white omelet. They assumed because it was egg white it wasn’t an animal.:facepalm: So where does egg whites and cheese come from, I asked. :scratch:
     
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  9. Tropicalbri's

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  10. GennyB

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    From what I know this subject comes up from time to time with people that do any kind of sport with their dog.
    It might just be too little too late to get upset now. I think dog racing is illegal or banned in all but maybe 10 states or so.
    Dog tracks in some states where it is still legal have been replaced by casinos that can make more money. I guess I'm okay with that. If a sport is falling out of favor, fine, let it go. What I'm not okay with is People proposing bills to ban something they don't know anything about. I'd be willing to bet the person(s) that write these bills have never been to a dog race. If they have it was more than likely not legitimate. Sure anything can be abused and is, but to say all greyhounds are treated awful is just wrong. Then to promote a bill like this based on misinformation is even worse.
    I had an Aunt (deceased now) that lived in Florida and bred racing greyhounds. In no way was one of her dogs ever mistreated. She went to great lengths to make sure her pups went to the best homes. She was very involved in the sport and told me more than once that people that did not obey the rules, some unwritten, were quickly blackballed.
     
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  11. Oh Little Oji

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    I agree with your general theory, but it's hard to imagine horse racing will ever be outlawed. All those rich, sparkly people looking like royalty?
     
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  12. Gelcoater

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    I agree, but if we went back in time...
    I’ve actually only known or interacted with one greyhound in my life, and only a couple of times.
    From my observation the thing that dog loved most?
    Being off lead, running. She lived for it or so it seemed to me as a fairly young man?
     
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  13. Oh Little Oji

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    That's what I was thinking: You've got a breed bred for one thing: Running like a bat out of the east side of west hades. I just hope all those beautiful Greyhounds are given an outlet to make them satisfied.

    I understand that Greyhounds (at least pet/retired ones) only need a nice outlet of energy per day and like to lounge around aside from that; so I could see a Greyhound being happy if it is at least given a trip to the dog park, er, make that a secure field where they can run. Then again, I don't personally know the mind of the typical Greyhound.

    Speaking of which, Greyhound-like Oji gets very few opportunities to really run free. Wish we lived near a park, or school yard like we used to.
     
  14. Gelcoater

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    I wish you did too!
    It’s an awesome thing!
    It can be nerve racking at times I admit, lol.
    There is a feeling I’m not sure of the words to describe? Pride? Joy? Wonder?
    As your Doberman is given release after a rabbit, a roadrunner.. a squirrel in the field?
    And they stretch it out, man! They reach far in stride, they push their speed and give it their built in athletic all.
    Doesn’t matter if they catch it...you sorta hope they don’t, lol. At least, after the first time they do;)
    Gross! :shock:
     
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  15. Brioddy

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    I believe greyhounds fare FAR better than race horses do, yet the latter will never become more regulated let alone banned. Horses take much longer to mature physically than dogs, yet they are pushed to extremes at a very early age creating the massive onset of physiological problems. For the one successful racehorse there are thousands that end up broken down. And even some of the MOST successful STILL end up in slaughter trucks when their racing days are over and they’re no longer able to breed.

    It’s all about the money. As usual.

    I’ve known a couple greyhounds, retired race dogs, and every one was very sensible and laid back. Very self assured. Level headed and sweet!
     
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  16. Tropicalbri's

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    New Zealand has been trying to ban Steeplechase racing as there is usually at least one horse put down during race periods due to fractured legs. The complaints started coming in after a recent race where 3 horses were euthanized. I know they have limited the number of horses allowed to compete in Steeplechase at one time due to injuries in the US. It’s a fast and dangerous sport for both jockey and horses. My last competition in Steeplechase ended with me on the ground getting trampled. Thank goodness my horse did not sustain any injuries. I’ve posted that picture before.
    The flat trackers, I don’t see as being banned anytime soon.

    A lot of times there are farms that will take the pensioners and washouts from the flat track and train them to trail riding. Takes a lot of time and work because these thoroughbreds are high strung beasts.
     
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  17. LifeofRubie

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    I've always wanted to adopt a greyhoud; I love their very unique look and yes, they always seem so calm and laid back.

    We've seen a few at the dog park and man are they a sight to see when they run! They just need to do a few laps around in the grass and then they seem as content as could be.

    I LOVE watching Rubie run! I realize I usually see her running directly away from or directly toward me when we're playing fetch at the park and that I miss the amazing side view

    I actually follow several organizations that work with re-homing thoroughbreds when they're done with their track days. They go and do everything from dressage, show jumping, and cross country to trail rides and rodeos. Retired Racehorse Project and Canter USA I believe are the names.
     
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  18. Tropicalbri's

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    A lot of them get trained and go on to do Steeplechase too. Most of the Steeplechase horses are washouts on the flat track. The 3 day eventing competitions are my favorites. Lots of jumps, trail navigation, water jumps etc. it’s great fun!
     
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  19. Brioddy

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    Retired racehorses are a real hit or miss, often ending in a miss. Many are high strung and mentally frazzled from being stabled 23 hours a day and when out, encouraged to go go go and also being fed super high energy feed. It takes a special person to possess the knowledge and capability to rehab an ex racehorse. They need a let down period but even then. And that’s IF you can find one that isn’t physically incapable in some way. Some are just too slow and are well bred beasts but those are at a premium. Even with these rescue organizations nine out of ten end up put down or on the meat truck.
     
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  20. Tropicalbri's

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    I love watching Bogie run. I have noticed when he realizes he can run full bore he wil widen his rear stance for maximum propulsion. It’s a sight to behold because he is so fast. He is very competitive and when he and Bacall run together he cheats by bumping into her to interrupt her gait and then turns on the after burners leaving her behind.
     
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