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Dry skin!!

Discussion in 'Doberman Nutritional Care' started by Djw479, Apr 14, 2019.

  1. Djw479

    Djw479 Novitiate

    Hello all! Haven’t posted in a while! But here’s Ollie! Just over a year old now. He is a fawn dobe, so i know he’s going to be more prone to skin/coat problems. That being said, his dandruff is horrible, and his poor paw pads are always so dry! We’ve tried fish oil capsules. Paw balms of all sorts. Salmon oil liquid on his food. Skin and coat treats with added omegas and vitamin e. I’m not noticing much change. I have only been using the salmon oil liquid for about two weeks, so still early to see if that will help.
    Anyone else facing this problem find anything that seems to help???’

     

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  2. Djw479

    Djw479 Novitiate

    Also we’ve eliminated food allergens. Bathe only when absolutely necessary. And he gets brushed at least every other day.
     
  3. Firestar Dobe

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    Are you using any coconut oil? I use coconut oil and water in a spray bottle and squirt it on the girl's coats daily.
     
  4. Djw479

    Djw479 Novitiate

    I’ve tried rubbing coconut oil into his skin. Haven’t for awhile as i was discouraged. How do you do it? Just mix the oil in warm water in a spray bottle and spray/ rub in?? I’ll have to give this a try!
     
  5. Firestar Dobe

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    Yes, I mix the coconut oil and water then spray it all over their coats and then just rub them or brush them down. Their coats are shiny!
     
  6. GennyB

    GennyB Moderator Hot Topics Subscriber

    Spraying coconut oil should help but I would look at treating him internally as well, especially being a fawn. The dilutes tend to have a dry coat and skin to begin with. I like krill oil best but use an oil that is a good source of omega 3 fatty acids.
    Omega 3's contain fatty acids which are beneficial to every cell membrane, supporting cell survival, renewal and growth. A huge benefit to dilutes because the problems with their coat is in the hair follicle. Promoting good cell development of the hair follicle only makes sense. I would consult a good holistic vet (they are much better at understanding nutritional needs IMO) because dogs need a balance of omega 3 and omega 6 fatty acids.
    I have to add that it will be very important to protect your boy from the sun. Dilutes have less hair per square inch so their skin needs to be protected. Look into a good dog safe sunscreen and always have a nice shady spot for him to get out of the sun.
    If you are willing to put in a little extra effort you can be successful in having a nice coat on your boy. No guarantees but it is possible.
    My RIP girl did have a nice coat with a little extra effort and tons of research.
    my beauty.jpg

    She was just shy of 10 years old in this pic. When we first brought her home, she had more than her share of problems. One being a very thin, dry scaly coat. She was almost bald when we brought her into our home at 9 months old.
     
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  7. strykerdobe

    strykerdobe Hot Topics Subscriber

    What food are you feeding?
    Did you notice the dryness this winter?
    What is the humidity in your house?
    Not all supplements are created equal.
    Even though they are only just over 1yr old I would have a Full Thyroid Panel done? Since Dobes in general are prone to Hypothyroidism issues. Also especially Fawn and Blue Dobes most will develop CDA (starting early at 2yrs old) or Color Dilution Alopecia.
    Some Fawns and Blues that come into the rescue with skin issues are given Melatonin and Biotin therapy for canine alopecia (hair loss in dogs). The starting dose for Melatonin 3mg every 8 hours. Sometimes it helps.
    Also Biotin (approximately 5 mg Biotin/10 kg (1kg = 2.2 pounds) body weight per day.
    Biotin is a B-Vitamin so its also in the B-50 and I would not give it with the B-50.
    So talk over these options with your Vet.

    Try and use an all Organic Shampoo with a Conditioner. Lots of shampoos will have harsh ingredients in them.
    20 Ingredients You Don't Want In Your Dog's Shampoo
    https://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/20-
    To be on the safe side, you don’t want any of these ingredients in your dog’s shampoo. Sodium benzoate preservative. When sodium benzoate and citric acid or ascorbic acid (vitamin C) are mixed together they may become benzene – a cancer-causing chemical associated with …


    We give
    Organic Coconut Oil.
    Omega 3 Fish Oil made from Sardines and Anchovies. About 3,000-4,000mg a day.
    Also give canned Sardines (in Water) 3x's a week.
    Organic Raw Egg everyday. Or lightly scramble them on low heat and keep them looking wet. Heat destroys Vitamins, Amino Acids and other nutrients!
    We raw feed and give raw liver.
    Or give a B-50 Vitamin every other day We use NOW Brand B-50.
    Brags Apple Cider Vinegar
     
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  8. Vinnie's Mom

    Vinnie's Mom New Member

    May I ask how you give the Brags?
     
  9. Vinnie's Mom

    Vinnie's Mom New Member

    Is the mix 50%50%?
     
  10. strykerdobe

    strykerdobe Hot Topics Subscriber

    Forgot its Brag's with the Mother.
    We mix in the food. 1-2 TSP a day. We feed 2x's a day. So if you do 2TSP a day. Give 1TSP with first meal then 1TSP with the second.
     
  11. Firestar Dobe

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    Yes, I use half water and half coconut oil, but you can play around with it until you get the results you like! It makes their coats shine and feel soft with no dry skin evident!
     
  12. HakuTheDoberman

    HakuTheDoberman Jr Member

    Agreed our puppy had a lot of dandruff when we got him and I’ve been doing the coconut oil and water spray every day since and little too no dandruff left and his coat super soft!:)
    I like the spray bottle more then applying the coconut oil directly on and then washing it off I find that’s makes them too greasy/oily especially if you don’t rinse well. Spray bottle is deff a easier application aha

    The spray bottle gives him the zoomies too which is a added cute bonus (although I’m sure some dogs hate it aha)
     
  13. Firestar Dobe

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    I use a spray bottle, but don't wash it off. I just lightly mist them and then rub it through their fur.
     
  14. HakuTheDoberman

    HakuTheDoberman Jr Member


    A lot of company’s make lotion and creams specific for dogs paw pads. I’d look into some highly rated ones and give it a try maybe!:) I have the Burt’s bees nose and paw lotion. Haven’t used it too much tho since I have a puppy and his paw pads are super soft still ( but tried it on the back of my hand and made is insanely soft aha). Just make sure to read reviews tho cause I read some have made people’s dogs throw up from licking it off their paws.
     
  15. strykerdobe

    strykerdobe Hot Topics Subscriber

    This page has some great tips on Blue Dobes. But I would also follow it for Fawns.
    From Grooming, Nutrition and Supplements.


    Storm's Regimen - James W. Anable
    seattle-attorney.com/storm/sup.html
    Blue Dobermans and CDA What is CDA? Blue and fawn Dobermans often suffer from a condition called Color Dilution Alopecia (CDA). CDA is a form of follicular dysplasia (FD). Reds and blacks can suffer from FD. The symptoms of CDA include bilateral balding, which commonly begins on the flanks …
     
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  16. Vinnie's Mom

    Vinnie's Mom New Member

    thanks! I am noticing some dandruff from the collar area and wanted to see if that will help!
     
  17. Vinnie's Mom

    Vinnie's Mom New Member

    Great! Thanks
     
  18. GennyB

    GennyB Moderator Hot Topics Subscriber



    The above link has some GREAT tips for maintaining a dilute coat. I just think it is important to point out that you should try new things slowly and just one thing at a time. It helps give you an idea of what works and what doesn't. Also helps avoid any stomach issues if you build a dosage slowly.
     
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