agree MLR... alot of good info...
I wanted to agree with Velma here on some levels... she has a very good point that I tend to agree with and believe and that is that most people who want to buy a puppy want to buy a GOOD puppy from a breeder who has history in several areas:
1. titles, taking the time to work with their dogs to achieve titles that represent that the dogs are up to the standard of the breed in their respective areas.
2. health testing on all the parents and all their predecessors...
3. a health gaurantee does make one feel all warm and cozy... but...
I agree that a health guarantee is only as good as the gaurantor.. prime example
"KIMBERTAL"...
they are a very very well known kennel that many people also know is a huge, high end PUPPY mill...
and they hugely sell their dogs on there ads in Dog publications and on the belief that the puppies are healthy and are well bred
because they offer a health guarantee....
which is a crock...
now what good is it really to have a health guarantee when the dog is certain to die before it is 4 years old from some congenital defect because of the fact that the guarantee does not PROMISE a healthy dog with no inherited defects.
I like what Velma said here... and I like what she closed with by saying "My reputation is on the line here and in my sport and my world"....
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In all honesty, I find that it is the slick internet people and greeders out there than offer the fancy health guarantees....... just what I have observed over the years and as always, JMHO. I am more than willing to stand behind my dogs and I don't need a piece of paper to do it - my reputation is on the line and in my sport, the world is small and word gets around about people who don't stand behind their dogs. It is a little different when you and your dogs are in the spotlight so to speak. We don't love a super healthy breed - we do the best we can with what is available to us"
I personally feel the same..I would always take my puppies back or do my damndest to make a solution to a situation that bereaved an 'owner' of one of my puppies if they died of something I had tested for and found it to be negative in my bitch... or in the stud... but to suggest that a "health guarantee" reflects an honest breeder is stretching it and naive at best...
DIShonest 'Greeders" as Velma called them use all the 'honor and integrity' tactics too, to create an illusion of those terms to instill the 'want' in a buyer and nothing more.
Integrity is going to be something someone earns over time and its not bought with simple tactics and 'tools' that are a standard to be considered as a guarantee of it...
I think that is what Velma is saying here... IMHO...