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Oops you're right @Sunje I got the Valhund and Lundehund mixed up. Being a squarehead skandy mutt I should know better.

There is a Spoo owner on the other forum, very knowledgeable-show mostly but I'm intrigued about the hunting side. I also like the looks and intimidation factor of a black Spoo with a close cut all over...wannabe "curly coat dobe!" I agree, great all around family functional dog properly...

😉 i must have imagined you said that...black "alaska shepherd" And then there are these- an example of a breed enthusiast trying to fix a genetic disease: https://campfireshilohs.com/shiloh-shepherd-history/ But back to the DNA of the mystery dog... (Are you thinking of bringing home, or...

Congrats!

Hmmm. Spitz tail, not like a Beauce dropped low. Fifth toe? my search engine says is Briard standard, or Newfy. All dogs have some webbing but is more larger in water dogs, in daschunds too but to dig... That face looks like Rottie smile. Greenland Malemutes like water. Alaska Black Shepherd...

Ya, another example of the growing proliferation of dog info sites for clicks, ads, data...monetization, and so on... the FB/IG source came from here: https://www.animalsaroundtheglobe.com/25-dog-breeds-everyone-owned-in-the-1980s-that-have-quietly-vanished-1-394752/ A little more clicking...

I'm sure...ours was too. Only slightly kidding, on "Killer" just because of intimidating size and I'm intrigued on those references to how he "saved your life several times". I've had a bunch of dogs and have been surprised at how ferocious in defense of loved ones, in the atypical breeds...the...

And re: ethical breeding, a quick look shows that while a long lived breed, genetic testing is showing some genetic disease from inbreeding... https://www.barbetclubofamerica.com/pra-in-barbet

This IS highly useful. Sometimes when talking with other owners of well behaved dogs, tsk-tsking at the clueless doodle owners who can't understand why their mutt is so out of control at the dog park, I will sometimes observe...well, the poodle was originally a high drive hunting dog bred to go...

Ya thats my favorite ice breaker at the dog park..."so...what IS that breed mix?"

Wikipedia is so often edited for political purposes that I hesitate to cite it, but on non-political, far back nerdery its helpful: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landseer_dog So its possible your Killer Neuf was a reject as all black, vs the two-tone that Landseer show breeders were trying to...

Please continue! So the Great Pyr predates the Newfy, and that courage went with the coat color, etc? "Cynologist"- I'm so stealing that.

Does he have tug drive?

TS @JanS Congrats @Katyusharocket! (Now I'm scrolling back...😄)

PS: just circling back on my interest in seeing how things go in working dobes, esp evaluations... someone suggested check out the decoys... Here's the results of one of the above shows, and more info on the people...

More recent info on UKC. And something to see in person if in that area and curious. I like the UKC emphasis on "total dogs" https://www.ukcdogs.com/total-dog-invitational

From some reading on gsd forums, I notice that breeders are selecting for behavior using genomic and genetic tools: https://wustenbergerland.com/czech-german-shepherd/ So there is another "proof" for ethical preservation breeders of dobes on how to... The key seems to be having enough of a...

More: "The focus on breeding to closed gene pools (Breed Registries) for exaggerated traits in the Mastiff has also led to health issues related to inbreeding. Inbreeding reduces genetic diversity, resulting in a higher prevalence of hereditary diseases and health problems (Leroy, 2011). In...

Thanks @Nordika - I had a big Neufy mix, and I guess my memory fails on what I recall from breed origin. But that dog was so gentle and protective of our infant son...bring a tear to my eye still. I had to teach him to swim as he'd been rescued from being shut in a garage all day...afraid of...

A note, from the Nordguard kennel page: "Show breeding practices have placed an emphasis on appearance and adherence to breed standards, at the expense of a dog's working ability and overall health (Farrell et al., 2015). In the case of the Mastiff breeds, this has often led to a focus on...