I can only say that I don't know. I do know that every litter has its leader, the dominant, courageous, no fear explorer, that was Rollo, the Breeders pick of the litter. As I said before, he is not your typical puppy, very high energy, high drive, and very headstrong with zero desire to please anyone but himself. As a 9 week old, he was this: most people don't want this or know what to do with it
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Thanks @Nordika !I can only say that I don't know. I do know that every litter has its leader, the dominant, courageous, no fear explorer, that was Rollo, the Breeders pick of the litter. As I said before, he is not your typical puppy, very high energy, high drive, and very headstrong with zero desire to please anyone but himself. As a 9 week old, he was this: most people don't want this or know what to do with it
This is much like Brio, and we were given the chance to get him earlier than planned (ie, we were on a waiting list for a puppy from this breeder), b/c she wanted him to go to a working home, and told us that he could not go to a pet home. He is also very independent, confident, high energy. I've had to work really hard to get him to buy into the whole "my idea is his idea" theory, but as he's matured we've found a good rhythm w/ obedience work. But he is the most challenging dog I've ever owned.I can only say that I don't know. I do know that every litter has its leader, the dominant, courageous, no fear explorer, that was Rollo, the Breeders pick of the litter. As I said before, he is not your typical puppy, very high energy, high drive, and very headstrong with zero desire to please anyone but himself. As a 9 week old, he was this: most people don't want this or know what to do with it
I enjoy a challenge, but honestly this one is over the top! My first Dobe was so biddable and easy to train. The very independent and stubborn Catahoula was the most difficult and took 18 months of hard labor.
but I'm trying to have patience 
my husband just says "I hope he calms down" ...lol. ya, we have hope.
When you say "toy drive" is that like what GSD trainers call "ball drive" or is it more "tug drive" as loves tug play on a rope or other item? I saw the "seize the rat, shake head to break neck" terrier thing most often in Bonnies puppy play, and we still play with it often in training.I enjoy a challenge, but honestly this one is over the top! My first Dobe was so biddable and easy to train. The very independent and stubborn Catahoula was the most difficult and took 18 months of hard labor.
I've never had an aggressive puppy before, aside from the wolf I had, but that aggression was never directed towards me. I was successful at suppression of the puppy aggression that Rollo had whenever he couldn't do what he wanted, he still has temper tantrums, but the growling, attacking and biting has been replaced by sassy mouth. He has no food drive, has a little toy drive, but has high prey drive. I'm finding it a bit limited, but I am using the flirt pole to train obedience and impulse control. He has the attention span of a gnat unless he's in prey drive, the problem with prey drive is it's often overstimulating. He's definitely the most challenging pup, frustrating
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Brio didn't have so much of the growly bitey stuff like the wee dutchie in your previous video. But he also has high prey drive and I really had to work on building toy drive. Food drive has always been pretty good, although he doesn't give a rats ass about food if there is something to chase. As he's gotten older he's settled down a bit and is somewhat easier to work with and is not quite so easily distracted!I enjoy a challenge, but honestly this one is over the top! My first Dobe was so biddable and easy to train. The very independent and stubborn Catahoula was the most difficult and took 18 months of hard labor.
I've never had an aggressive puppy before, aside from the wolf I had, but that aggression was never directed towards me. I was successful at suppression of the puppy aggression that Rollo had whenever he couldn't do what he wanted, he still has temper tantrums, but the growling, attacking and biting has been replaced by sassy mouth. He has no food drive, has a little toy drive, but has high prey drive. I'm finding it a bit limited, but I am using the flirt pole to train obedience and impulse control. He has the attention span of a gnat unless he's in prey drive, the problem with prey drive is it's often overstimulating. He's definitely the most challenging pup, frustrating
Toy drive is both ball/tug, it's fine for indoor training, but outside with distractions doesn't hold attention for him. He's like ADHD outside. He loves the chase and catch of the flirt pole, so much so that nothing is distracting from it. So it's basically the only tool I have to work outside. Food doesn't work at all outside, even if I withhold food for 24 hours and dangle a piece of steak in front of his nose, he won't work for it, he'd rather collect pieces of trash
I can relate! In encouraging nose use, I modified a trainer trick to make up or own version of nosework game "Zook"...hiding HVT food in/on logs, rocks etc and Bonnie uses that nose on trail today, ranging like a spaniel and very persistent in tracking with a tell on find.Food doesn't work at all outside, even if I withhold food for 24 hours and dangle a piece of steak in front of his nose, he won't work for it, he'd rather collect pieces of trash
Sounds like fun for you and Bonnie. There are only two places my dogs are allowed to eat, from my hand or from their food bowl. I spend months training not to eat anything else, from ground or stranger, etc. this is mostly aversive. For this reason, I can never use food in training tracking or nose work.
Eucalyptus inhibits plant growth under the canopy but absolutely harmless to dogs.
Epic lineup! He wears it well!Was able to capture a photo of a rare Doberman unicorn
Thats a valid choice for these dobersharks.
Whew thats a relief! After last nights storm squall lots of yummy crunchy seeds fell too...Eucalyptus inhibits plant growth under the canopy but absolutely harmless to dogs.
