Neighbor problems.

The trampoline hasn't been used hardly any since I did this post. These people are a constant aggravation. Their dog got out yesterday, I managed to catch him and put him back in the yard. They dont have a latch on the gate so they push a car battery against it to keep it shut. They finally mowed their overgrown front yard yesterday. They scalp it leaving clumps and blow grass all over the sidewalk and then leave it.I had Code Enforcement over Fri and showed them multiple violations. They also have a mattress laying against the backyard fence. Did I mention this is a single couple with 6 kids, 2 foster kids and a baby thats due in a couple weeks. The boyfriend is buying the house, she is not listed on anything according yo property records. I think they are working the system getting all kinds of government aid.
 

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Holy mackerel!! That's quite some grass clippings on the sidewalk. Shame that some people take no pride in their property. Frankly, just lazy slobs. No excuse.
 
Wait.. there will be more than ten people living in one house once that baby is born?! I can’t even imagine having that many mouths to feed.

I hope the town/city is able to cite them for their violations. In my small town you get summoned to housing court, which is a big inconvenience itself.
 
The trampoline hasn't been used hardly any since I did this post. These people are a constant aggravation. Their dog got out yesterday, I managed to catch him and put him back in the yard. They dont have a latch on the gate so they push a car battery against it to keep it shut. They finally mowed their overgrown front yard yesterday. They scalp it leaving clumps and blow grass all over the sidewalk and then leave it.I had Code Enforcement over Fri and showed them multiple violations. They also have a mattress laying against the backyard fence. Did I mention this is a single couple with 6 kids, 2 foster kids and a baby thats due in a couple weeks. The boyfriend is buying the house, she is not listed on anything according yo property records. I think they are working the system getting all kinds of government aid.

I heard stories of a couple who would foster kids for income and max our credit cards and spend spend spend on house and cars and vacations they couldn't afford, claim bankruptcy, rinse, repeat. Doesn't sound like a comfortable existence to me.
 
Pepper barks at 5 am when she’s let out, nothing major it’s her am patrol. I am right there and let her bank in after her business is done. So total time is less than 5 min and barking isn’t continuous.

My neighbor just text me to ask if I can get her to stop barking on weekends. Now I get it, it’s early and it’s annoying, but it’s a few barks and she is a dog.

I also don’t want to cut out her barking as she is a dog and a working breed dog. She should bark. Am I negligent? Nope, not at all.

How would one handle this? I text her back said working on it, but in reality she is a dog. A few barks I don’t see as an issue.

We’ve had our issues as well so this is just one more thing to add 😩
 
Pepper barks at 5 am when she’s let out, nothing major it’s her am patrol. I am right there and let her bank in after her business is done. So total time is less than 5 min and barking isn’t continuous.
This is kind of a hard one. I personally don't think a few barks should be complained about, nothing like a dog barking all day long every day, which I call nuisance barking. That said, your neighbors should not be subjected to being awakened to "your alarm clock", and they were kind enough to specify the weekends. A "that's enough" or "quiet" command is good to teach Pepper, and she's old enough now to grasp that concept. It doesn't prevent her from alarm barking, but you will be pleased down the road of being able to shut it down. Also, it's good for Pepper to learn at this age that barking just for barking sake is frowned upon and she can sort it out as she learns what you disapprove of.

Nice to know there are other early risers out there - I think we're few & far between! 😅
 
This is kind of a hard one. I personally don't think a few barks should be complained about, nothing like a dog barking all day long every day, which I call nuisance barking. That said, your neighbors should not be subjected to being awakened to "your alarm clock", and they were kind enough to specify the weekends. A "that's enough" or "quiet" command is good to teach Pepper, and she's old enough now to grasp that concept. It doesn't prevent her from alarm barking, but you will be pleased down the road of being able to shut it down. Also, it's good for Pepper to learn at this age that barking just for barking sake is frowned upon and she can sort it out as she learns what you disapprove of.

Nice to know there are other early risers out there - I think we're few & far between! 😅
Exactly it’s a few barks as she runs the yard to patrol goes potty and back inside. Also, critters have been in the yard and she’s making it clear to them it’s her yard. I wouldn’t let her continue to bark outside at anytime of the day.

Ok sounds good- she knows “enough” and we are working on “quiet” because she’s now whining a lot. 😩😂

Yes, up at 5 am and that’s ok I’m happy she’s been making it 9-5 since she was tiny about 4 months. I enjoy my sleep!

Moving forward I am going to take her out in the am on her leash and work the commands with her.

Thank you for the advice always appreciate it!!!
 
Exactly it’s a few barks as she runs the yard to patrol goes potty and back inside. Also, critters have been in the yard and she’s making it clear to them it’s her yard. I wouldn’t let her continue to bark outside at anytime of the day.

Ok sounds good- she knows “enough” and we are working on “quiet” because she’s now whining a lot. 😩😂

Yes, up at 5 am and that’s ok I’m happy she’s been making it 9-5 since she was tiny about 4 months. I enjoy my sleep!

Moving forward I am going to take her out in the am on her leash and work the commands with her.

Thank you for the advice always appreciate it!!!
And for early risers does Asha get up early? Will it ever stop ?! lol I could sleep until 6 am thag would be nice 😂

And no neighbors would be nice lol someday right?! My goal.
 
Moving forward I am going to take her out in the am on her leash and work the commands with her.
She only barks when let out first thing in the morning, or every time you let her out to go potty? If she does it any time, you could begin training on it at any hour, not just at dark-thirty in the morning. I started using Leave It for Asha when she got squirrel crazy last year. We've got a squirrel explosion going on the last year and she decided they needed barked at and run at any time she saw one out the window. Terrible explosive barking jolting me out of my chair. My normal "enough" or "quiet" wasn't working but I got onto her with a "LEAVE. IT." and she realized how serious I was and has been better since. But being 4 years old and memories of some serious consequences for "leave it" probably helped. And it was prey drive driven rather than just barking at "something out there".
 
She only barks when let out first thing in the morning, or every time you let her out to go potty? If she does it any time, you could begin training on it at any hour, not just at dark-thirty in the morning. I started using Leave It for Asha when she got squirrel crazy last year. We've got a squirrel explosion going on the last year and she decided they needed barked at and run at any time she saw one out the window. Terrible explosive barking jolting me out of my chair. My normal "enough" or "quiet" wasn't working but I got onto her with a "LEAVE. IT." and she realized how serious I was and has been better since. But being 4 years old and memories of some serious consequences for "leave it" probably helped. And it was prey drive driven rather than just barking at "something out there".
She only does it in the am when she goes out for potty. Pretty sure she smells whatever was out there at night. We have much wildlife being close to the state park.

I know I just got her to the point where she can potty in the am alone and I make my coffee then. Well, back to the beginning of it again haha. 😂😵‍💫
 
And for early risers does Asha get up early?
Yes, but I started it because I've always been a early riser. I love the early mornings. So yeah, Asha starts stirring about 3:30 - 4:00. I usually get up at 4. Before I got Asha I would consider sleeping until 5 or 6 as sleeping in. :rofl: I think I've done that maybe twice since I got her 4.5 years ago.
Will it ever stop ?
I doubt it. She almost always wakes before I do.
 
She only does it in the am when she goes out for potty. Pretty sure she smells whatever was out there at night. We have much wildlife being close to the state park.
Yeah, that's what I was afraid of. More work on your part, but really in the long run you will get tired of hearing it too, and it's one of those things that can build into spouting off at anything and everything. Wasn't she doing that as a little puppy? One of the first issues that brought you to this forum?

It does still bother me to have to justify scolding barking when we got a dog bred to bark & alert. I love this breed for being what they are!

Yes, no near-by neighbors is heaven.
 
Yes, but I started it because I've always been a early riser. I love the early mornings. So yeah, Asha starts stirring about 3:30 - 4:00. I usually get up at 4. Before I got Asha I would consider sleeping until 5 or 6 as sleeping in. :rofl: I think I've done that maybe twice since I got her 4.5 years ago.

I doubt it. She almost always wakes before I do.
Wow 3 or 4 that’s intense. I get it though I enjoy being up early, but 5 am is enough haha. I can get up get boys stuff ready before they have to get up. Although, summer I wouldn’t mind 6 am. So we will see she likes her routine and so do I.

Do you go to bed early?

I was hoping with maturity Pepper would make it till 6… hope… 😂😂
 
Yeah, that's what I was afraid of. More work on your part, but really in the long run you will get tired of hearing it too, and it's one of those things that can build into spouting off at anything and everything. Wasn't she doing that as a little puppy? One of the first issues that brought you to this forum?

It does still bother me to have to justify scolding barking when we got a dog bred to bark & alert. I love this breed for being what they are!

Yes, no near-by neighbors is heaven.
For sure and I feel bad when she does it be use it is 5 am. More work lol always, but thank you for the help I’ll get to it tomorrow am.

She was reactive not long ago- to almost all things. We have now worked on that and she’s wonderful on walks and in general in public. Even in the front yard I tell her “I see it” or “enough” and she won’t bark bc she knows I got it.

But yea same we have a working breed so it’s strange to say umm no you can’t bark.

I love this breed too- the best!!!
 
Pepper barks at 5 am when she’s let out, nothing major it’s her am patrol. I am right there and let her bank in after her business is done. So total time is less than 5 min and barking isn’t continuous.

My neighbor just text me to ask if I can get her to stop barking on weekends. Now I get it, it’s early and it’s annoying, but it’s a few barks and she is a dog.

I also don’t want to cut out her barking as she is a dog and a working breed dog. She should bark. Am I negligent? Nope, not at all.

How would one handle this? I text her back said working on it, but in reality she is a dog. A few barks I don’t see as an issue.

We’ve had our issues as well so this is just one more thing to add 😩
Your situation sounds very similar to ours with the late Oji (save for the getting up really early!) I'll just tackle that part up front: I don't care what time my dog wakes up. He is not to wake me up though. As long as I'm laying down with my eyes closed he knows to leave me completely alone. I teach them this from the start. Now, I don't recall if Pepper is house training still, and if maybe that is the reason you get up with her; but I'm a super hard no on my dog deciding when I, or the family, gets up.

So, if Pepper can hold it, I would not let her out that early. Maybe you can gradually move the first let-out time later. This would likely help matters with the neighbor as well.

The barking:

Again, I had a very similar issue. I agree that these are working/guarding dogs and some vocalization is good. Moreover, some barking for any dog is normal. I remember when I was going to purchase and pick up my first Doberman. The owners had sire and dam onsite, as they were their only two dogs and their family pets. It was nighttime and they let the Dobes out into their yard. Right away, they charged out there and started barking. They were not barking at anything in particular as far as I know. They were just saying Hellooo world! We are here!! This is our territory!! I think this is a Doberman thing. Those folks lived on a good amount of property, FYI.

That said, I do detest having to listen to neighbors' dogs bark.

I agree with you that a few short bursts of barking are okay. Now, this depends on how close you are to the neighbor's house, and at what time of the day or night it occurs.

People's feelings on what is excessive barking is very subjective. Many people don't apply any thought to the matter. They just feel annoyed and react emotionally. Our situation with Oji, which I may have talked about in this thread, is that we live close to neighbors. The houses are about 15 feet or so apart! I never just let Oji out in the backyard and sort of left him unattended. I would be in that back part of the house and ready to respond if he barked. I couldn't even go the the bathroom and take a quick pee with him out in the yard because I needed to be ready to get him to stop barking.

That said, if he went after a squirrel, I would of course let him vocalize for that short burst. If he saw someone walking on our side of the street, I'd let him vocalize. Unfortunately, he was a major major barker at other dogs.

So, his barking bursts (which were always aggressive sounding, as that was basically his one type of bark) were brief – I'd say between 10 seconds to 25 seconds. One day I did choose to take my toddler out on her tricycle for one loop of our rather short street. I knew Oji would bark the whole time nonstop. He had separation anxiety and he just barked the whole time we left him. He just did. We only wound up making 1/2 a loop of the street before I decided to come back and put an end to the barking. Well, our nextdoor neighbor met us in front of his house an rudely told me to get our dog to stop barking. In fairness, Oji was barking right next to the man's house wall, as it runs alongside our driveway. I think also that his kid was just starting to do online schooling due to Covid lockdown and the barking was right next to that wall.

Another tine, maybe a couple years later, Oji had burst into barking at something as we were out on the back patio having dinner. The guy walks over to the fence and as I am securing Oji he is standing there glaring at me and says "It's getting old." I'm like "WHAT?" "You're crazy! It's not excessive!" He then said he was just going to call the cops. I'm like yeah, try that. (I knew the cops would not even respond)

So, relations were strained. A week or so later, I chose to be the bigger man and as I saw the man in his driveway unloading something, I said I needed to talk to him. I said I shouldn't have said what I said when I called him crazy. I said I did want to know what his complaints were though. He said my dog's barking just sounded aggressive. Um okay. ? He also had a concern that his elderly female dog (who in reality gave just as good as she got in the brief fence-fighting barking exchanges) they were concerned that it would give her a heart attack or something.

So anyway, I just tightened up my already stringent routine with Oji and eventually he passed away and that particular problem, went away.

Now we have another dog who is large and has a very big deep bark, but hopefully doesn't sound as "aggressive". I control him equally as tightly.
 
Oh, the barking vs neighbors :rofl:

Nuisance barking is certainly something entirely and fine to complain about but we have been told by our neighbors (who we have a great relationship with) that Rubie's barking early in weekends is not ideal.

It's not so much an issue when weather is cold but now that it's getting nice out, higher chance of people walking or biking by (we live on in a corner lot in a pretty active neighborhood - didn't think that one through very well 😂). She is eCollar trained so we'll throw that on and she generally understands one boof is ok, but then, like, chill. Run around like an idiot but be quiet about it.
 
Your situation sounds very similar to ours with the late Oji (save for the getting up really early!) I'll just tackle that part up front: I don't care what time my dog wakes up. He is not to wake me up though. As long as I'm laying down with my eyes closed he knows to leave me completely alone. I teach them this from the start. Now, I don't recall if Pepper is house training still, and if maybe that is the reason you get up with her; but I'm a super hard no on my dog deciding when I, or the family, gets up.

So, if Pepper can hold it, I would not let her out that early. Maybe you can gradually move the first let-out time later. This would likely help matters with the neighbor as well.

The barking:

Again, I had a very similar issue. I agree that these are working/guarding dogs and some vocalization is good. Moreover, some barking for any dog is normal. I remember when I was going to purchase and pick up my first Doberman. The owners had sire and dam onsite, as they were their only two dogs and their family pets. It was nighttime and they let the Dobes out into their yard. Right away, they charged out there and started barking. They were not barking at anything in particular as far as I know. They were just saying Hellooo world! We are here!! This is our territory!! I think this is a Doberman thing. Those folks lived on a good amount of property, FYI.

That said, I do detest having to listen to neighbors' dogs bark.

I agree with you that a few short bursts of barking are okay. Now, this depends on how close you are to the neighbor's house, and at what time of the day or night it occurs.

People's feelings on what is excessive barking is very subjective. Many people don't apply any thought to the matter. They just feel annoyed and react emotionally. Our situation with Oji, which I may have talked about in this thread, is that we live close to neighbors. The houses are about 15 feet or so apart! I never just let Oji out in the backyard and sort of left him unattended. I would be in that back part of the house and ready to respond if he barked. I couldn't even go the the bathroom and take a quick pee with him out in the yard because I needed to be ready to get him to stop barking.

That said, if he went after a squirrel, I would of course let him vocalize for that short burst. If he saw someone walking on our side of the street, I'd let him vocalize. Unfortunately, he was a major major barker at other dogs.

So, his barking bursts (which were always aggressive sounding, as that was basically his one type of bark) were brief – I'd say between 10 seconds to 25 seconds. One day I did choose to take my toddler out on her tricycle for one loop of our rather short street. I knew Oji would bark the whole time nonstop. He had separation anxiety and he just barked the whole time we left him. He just did. We only wound up making 1/2 a loop of the street before I decided to come back and put an end to the barking. Well, our nextdoor neighbor met us in front of his house an rudely told me to get our dog to stop barking. In fairness, Oji was barking right next to the man's house wall, as it runs alongside our driveway. I think also that his kid was just starting to do online schooling due to Covid lockdown and the barking was right next to that wall.

Another tine, maybe a couple years later, Oji had burst into barking at something as we were out on the back patio having dinner. The guy walks over to the fence and as I am securing Oji he is standing there glaring at me and says "It's getting old." I'm like "WHAT?" "You're crazy! It's not excessive!" He then said he was just going to call the cops. I'm like yeah, try that. (I knew the cops would not even respond)

So, relations were strained. A week or so later, I chose to be the bigger man and as I saw the man in his driveway unloading something, I said I needed to talk to him. I said I shouldn't have said what I said when I called him crazy. I said I did want to know what his complaints were though. He said my dog's barking just sounded aggressive. Um okay. ? He also had a concern that his elderly female dog (who in reality gave just as good as she got in the brief fence-fighting barking exchanges) they were concerned that it would give her a heart attack or something.

So anyway, I just tightened up my already stringent routine with Oji and eventually he passed away and that particular problem, went away.

Now we have another dog who is large and has a very big deep bark, but hopefully doesn't sound as "aggressive". I control him equally as tightly.
Thank you for this! I mean we have plenty of other people with dogs in the neighborhood. One is a GSD who is let outside to bark and never stops. I do the same as you let Pepper out and I’m nearby. She also makes it a quick trip in the am because she wants to come back in and eat.

We have a Doberman behind us who goes out and barks every time, but it’s later in the am.

I do think my neighbor is being a bit dramatic, but you’re right it’s subjective. Today I do think it was emotional reaction bc she text me right away bright and early and didn’t respond back haha.

Pepper is 7.5 months and potty trained, so making it until 5 am I’m happy with. I almost get up own my own by that point I’m getting old haha.

I’ll try to get her trained with it, but I don’t really think it’s the at big of an issue. Thank you for the advice and your experience.
 
Oh, the barking vs neighbors :rofl:

Nuisance barking is certainly something entirely and fine to complain about but we have been told by our neighbors (who we have a great relationship with) that Rubie's barking early in weekends is not ideal.

It's not so much an issue when weather is cold but now that it's getting nice out, higher chance of people walking or biking by (we live on in a corner lot in a pretty active neighborhood - didn't think that one through very well 😂). She is eCollar trained so we'll throw that on and she generally understands one boof is ok, but then, like, chill. Run around like an idiot but be quiet about it.
Haha it’s not ideal I don’t like it either, but she’s got to go potty and clear the yard.

She really doesn’t bark much besides that. I’ve really gotten her to be neutral in most environments. Although, we have some other dogs who go on and once have their owners let them out and leave them.

Neighborhoods have dogs and they bark it’s annoying, but what can really be done? 🤦‍♀🥲
 
These people moved in about 3 yrs ago, I've watched the property steadily decline. They are the type that belong in the Hills. Six kids and another due in 4 wks.Forgot to mention they recently took on 2 Foster children. I think they are working the system since they are not married. I can't imagine how much Gov assistance they are getting, neither work. I have cut their front yard many times because it looks so bad. When they do mow the grass is real tall and their mower is on a low setting. Clumps of grass everywhere with grass all over the sidewalk. They told me the last house they lived in was condemned after they moved out. They have a German Shepherd that constantly gets out. We live on a busy street, he was hit once but luckily survived. In case you can't tell I'm very aggravated. I work hard to keep our house looking nice on the outside and theirs us just trash. Some of their weeds are almost as tall as new trees I've planted. Rant over.
Hey im hillfolk and should not lump people to a single type. And how judgmental that they are may not be married? What business is that of yours? People do not have to get married to love one another and even not be the same sex. You actually know all this your saying? Im not saying they are not but you seem to know all about there business . Maybe they have hit hard times I guess you have never been poor before. I have . I guess your post really hit me hard of the way you talk about people this way. I understand the issue of the dogs but the other is just plain judgmental. I live in oklahoma hills and my family are hillbillies yet I was raised to respect my neighbors. Its on there property so what they do there is there business. Again none of your business how they live if they want to be hippies that's there life. More I read the post over the more angry I get. Its like your snubbing your nose at them. Maybe take them some cookies for the kids or be a "good neighbor" and not so darn judgmental!.. AT least they give the kids something to play on. Unless they are extremely loud I do not think you have any say about it. Unless they pounce 24/7 I would just deal with it. Kids like another said will get bored. Just train your dogs to "leave it" . Or buy a training collar. I use the beep when my girl wants to bark at the cows next door. Im sure not gonna ask my neighbor to get rid of his cows just because it makes my Kira upset. Just leave the neighbor alone unless they come to your place or make excessive noise,.. I live in the woods but have lived in town. Its just a suggestion since you did ask > I do use a bark collar often for repetitive nuisance barking. It beeps to warn and does give a light buzz if she does not stop. Now I don't even charge it just put it on her and she has mute button on. Unless its really necessary and she does see something needing barked at.. She's only one year old but already guarding.
 

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